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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1803282)

I too have read that Obama has refused a demand by the military to launch an airstrike on the landing/crashing site.

I wonder why one cannot report on that in an objective, fact-oriented manner, critical - but professional? Why this manipulative sub-tone, this emotional rant? Maybe because the way it was set up is linked to and refers to FOX, that it even mentions?

I question Obama'S wisdom there. But I am willing to discuss over his motive. Consider an airstrike, a bombing raid being carried out. The diplomatic turmoil. De facto an act of a hot shooting war that diplomats of the Obama regime want to avoid at all cost, it seems. The massive swing of public opinion again.

I do not say these reasons are more valuable than denying the technology of the drone to the Iranians. But I hate this hate-filled gutter-journalism that is no journalism at all, but is propaganda and emotional rant.

In all fairness sir.
Airstriking Iran is a different animal than what we do in Palkistan with Hellfire missiles from predator drones.

Think about it, the first time we did it, it would have caused an open war, had it not been sanctioned from deep levels of Paki government. We even hit there guys by accident, and all we got was dirty looks, money talks, and they love US money.

If we hit Iran as blatantly as we nail Pakistan, Israel would be invaded so fast, followed by condemnations calls from monkey ears Mahmoud. Followed by Russia and China making Americas UN life miserable (as they always do in the UN), even if we do pay most the way in that operation.

I do wish Obama had a set of testicles myself. But if you saw the Republican field we have, you would actually be grateful to have a spineless scholar, rather than a religious extremist.

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1803282)

I too have read that Obama has refused a demand by the military to launch an airstrike on the landing/crashing site.

I wonder why one cannot report on that in an objective, fact-oriented manner, critical - but professional? Why this manipulative sub-tone, this emotional rant? Maybe because the way it was set up is linked to and refers to FOX, that it even mentions?

I question Obama'S wisdom there. But I am willing to discuss over his motive. Consider an airstrike, a bombing raid being carried out. The diplomatic turmoil. De facto an act of a hot shooting war that diplomats of the Obama regime want to avoid at all cost, it seems. The massive swing of public opinion again.

I do not say these reasons are more valuable than denying the technology of the drone to the Iranians. But I hate this hate-filled, manipulative gutter-journalism that is no journalism at all, but is propaganda and emotional rant.

An attack on iranian soil, could be seen by the iranian as an act of war. However, sending a drone into a country, could also be seen as an act of war.

I agree, that if the article is right in it's statement, they could have written it in a more subjektive way.

But I assume that this newspaper is a left or a rightwing newspaper, so offcourse they write it in their way of seeing it.

Markus

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I too have read that Obama has refused a demand by the military to launch an airstrike on the landing/crashing site.

This may play more to the idea I proffered earlier of the "capture" of the drone being a sort of 'Trojan Horse" operation. Give them a drone, stripped of the more 'sensitive' technology, but with enough to make it interesting, and see where it goes and to whom. Might be a good way to suss out intelligence locations or the Iran's 'customers/clients' with a view to taking later action or to set up a propaganda campaign...

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1803282)

I too have read that Obama has refused a demand by the military to launch an airstrike on the landing/crashing site.

I wonder why one cannot report on that in an objective, fact-oriented manner, critical - but professional? Why this manipulative sub-tone, this emotional rant? Maybe because the way it was set up is linked to and refers to FOX, that it even mentions?

I question Obama'S wisdom there. But I am willing to discuss over his motive. Consider an airstrike, a bombing raid being carried out. The diplomatic turmoil. De facto an act of a hot shooting war that diplomats of the Obama regime want to avoid at all cost, it seems. The massive swing of public opinion again.

I do not say these reasons are more valuable than denying the technology of the drone to the Iranians. But I hate this hate-filled, manipulative gutter-journalism that is no journalism at all, but is propaganda and emotional rant.

^ Good post :yep:

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Originally Posted by soopaman2 (Post 1803285)

If we hit Iran as blatantly as we nail Pakistan, Israel would be invaded so fast,

By whom?

I suspect the Israelis may be only to happy to accomodate any suitor....preferably Iran and especially if the US was happy with said retaliation which such an aggressive move would dictate.

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1803306)

By whom?

Wouldn't be the Syrians, that's for sure. They're in a civil war. The Jordanians just want to mind their own business and the Lebanese are a whole 'nother story.

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Originally Posted by Kaye T. Bai (Post 1803313)

Wouldn't be the Syrians, that's for sure. They're in a civil war. The Jordanians just want to mind their own business and the Lebanese are a whole 'nother story.

Not many other suitors left then...oh I forgot Egypt, no...wait a minute :DL

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1803327)

Not many other suitors left then...oh I forgot Egypt, no...wait a minute

Egypt's too busy going after Christians and the Libyans are busy banning Jews from entering their newly governed country.

Please sir, can we have our drone back?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-16150384

Oh I'm sure they'll just send it back in christmas wrapper. :)

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Mr Obama said he would not comment on classified intelligence matters, but confirmed: "We have asked for it back. We'll see how the Iranians respond."

Maybe U.S. gov hopes that Santa pics it up in his way to North America... :D

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 1804181)

Please sir, can we have our drone back?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-16150384

Was looking at that a little while ago....looks like Obama is calling their bluff...put up or shut up :hmmm: