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geetrue 11-29-11 06:20 PM

Students cover story is that the Britsh destroyed many trees in a recent remodel of the property.

Embassy says that the water to some thirty trees had indeed been cut off by accident during the landscaping and that they had died.

This is not a joke ... that is a true story

August 11-29-11 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike (Post 1796019)
Because the UK dosn't want to be like the US, they want to get their info on whats happening in Tehran from the SIS and not CNN! :O:

How's that working out for them? Good up until now eh? :DL

August 11-29-11 07:04 PM

It's obvious that this attack was not only officially sanctioned but orchestrated by the Iranian regime. You can't deal with such people.

War is coming. :yep:

Jimbuna 11-29-11 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1796372)
It's obvious that this attack was not only officially sanctioned but orchestrated by the Iranian regime. You can't deal with such people.

War is coming. :yep:

Agreed.....sadly :yep:

Platapus 11-29-11 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1796372)
It's obvious that this attack was not only officially sanctioned but orchestrated by the Iranian regime. You can't deal with such people.

War is coming. :yep:

And the evidence that is so clear would be ......?

August 11-29-11 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1796393)
And the evidence that is so clear would be ......?

What evidence would satisfy you? That it happened is not enough? How about that it happened in a country where such things do not happen without the regimes blessing and that it happened in a country with a history of brutal and bloody suppression of unsanctioned political events and how that country has done the same thing before to our embassy? Heck, their president, well known for his belligerence even participated in it!

No you look at the total picture and it's obvious, unless they change their ways which they show no sign of doing, war is coming.

Platapus 11-29-11 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1796408)
What evidence would satisfy you? .

You are the one making the claim so I am just asking you what your evidence is.

You are the one using the word "obvious". Stuff that is "obvious" should be pretty easy to explain, right?:yep:

August 11-29-11 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1796415)
You are the one making the claim so I am just asking you what your evidence is.

You are the one using the word "obvious". Stuff that is "obvious" should be pretty easy to explain, right?:yep:

Apparently pretty easy to ignore as well. :yep:

So again I ask:
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That it happened is not enough? How about that it happened in a country where such things do not happen without the regimes blessing and that it happened in a country with a history of brutal and bloody suppression of unsanctioned political events and how that country has done the same thing before to our embassy? Heck, their president, well known for his belligerence even participated in it!

Skybird 11-29-11 09:24 PM

Let'S settle this unneeded argument by saying that the likelihood for war becomes the bigger
- the more nervous Israel becomes over it's well-founded concerns,
- the more primitive and uncivilised the Iranians behave like seen today (again),
- and the more it becomes evident to the leaders of the war-potent Western nations that Iran's goal is not to negotiate the price for giving up its weapon program, but to win the time it needs to create facts and get the bomb for sure.

Iran will not give up the bomb. Simply this. That never, never, never was its negotiation goal.

That leaves the only question whether Israel and the West will dare to take the risk of letting them, or will hinder them by force. And the implicit question is whether the West has the balls to go all the way, or just wants an alibi operation that will not acchieve the mission objective but allows the West the cheap excuse that one at least has tried "even by force".

A war going for Iran's nuclear throat and rip it out of the rest of the body, gets my acceptance. A war just "buying time" does not get my acceptance. Do war - or don't. Just do not do any half-hearted follies that cause a lot of loud noise and bright lights but only leave you with the same decisions to be made again five years later.

jumpy 11-29-11 10:35 PM

Too many 'fronts' in the ME already for western military. Not to mention decision by committee is a bad way to do anything like that; the consensus is always warped badly at the end of it - look at france and the decision to depose saddam (they profit from being the largest civil engineering contractor now though - source R4 politics discussion).

Can't say for anyone else, but our military is overstretched and under funded/equipped as it is. Like it or not, it's more than we can support financially or politically or with supply of materiel.

Unless we're going to nuke 'em and blame it on poor iranian nuclear health and safety?

As for iran and the bomb, unlike the mad ideologues of the cold war, the 'god is great' contingent think martyrdom is cool. That makes them the kind of people who perhaps need to be 'removed' so they cannot have the bomb, for the sake of the rest of us who have been there and done that obsessive game of thermonuclear brinkmanship for 50 years already.
Iirc they even rejected russian help/oversight in building civilian nuclear facilities, insisting on doing it all themselves. Either that is a symptom of national pride or a reasonably clear suggestion that their nuclear intentions and not purely benign.

1480 11-30-11 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jumpy (Post 1796453)
Too many 'fronts' in the ME already for western military. Not to mention decision by committee is a bad way to do anything like that; the consensus is always warped badly at the end of it - look at france and the decision to depose saddam (they profit from being the largest civil engineering contractor now though - source R4 politics discussion).

Can't say for anyone else, but our military is overstretched and under funded/equipped as it is. Like it or not, it's more than we can support financially or politically or with supply of materiel.

Unless we're going to nuke 'em and blame it on poor iranian nuclear health and safety?

As for iran and the bomb, unlike the mad ideologues of the cold war, the 'god is great' contingent think martyrdom is cool. That makes them the kind of people who perhaps need to be 'removed' so they cannot have the bomb, for the sake of the rest of us who have been there and done that obsessive game of thermonuclear brinkmanship for 50 years already.
Iirc they even rejected russian help/oversight in building civilian nuclear facilities, insisting on doing it all themselves. Either that is a symptom of national pride or a reasonably clear suggestion that their nuclear intentions and not purely benign.


I wish there was an emoticon for standing ovation!:Kaleun_Applaud:

But here is the next best thing.

Gerald 11-30-11 12:35 AM

UK warns Iran after embassy stormed!
 
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UK Prime Minister David Cameron has warned Iran of "serious consequences" after protesters stormed the British embassy and a UK compound in Tehran.Offices were ransacked and flags burned in the attacks, which followed a demonstration against sanctions imposed on Iran over its nuclear programme. Mr Cameron described the attacks as "outrageous and indefensible".The US and EU also condemned the attacks. Iran's foreign ministry expressed "regret" for the incidents.The demonstrations followed a vote in Iran's parliament to reduce diplomatic ties with Britain in retaliation for imposing further sanctions.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-15955501

Note: Update record: 30 November 2011 Last updated at 04:46 GMT

Reece 11-30-11 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1795950)
It seems pretty obvious that we're going to have a war with Iran, eventually.

The sooner the better imo!:x

Gerald 11-30-11 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Reece (Post 1796488)
The sooner the better imo!:x

Be careful what you wish, no one will serving in a war,in war there are only losers.

Gerald 11-30-11 02:37 AM

Timeline: Iran and UK relations
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15949285


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