Originally Posted by gap (Post 1640388)

What ClimateZones.tga are you basing on for your mod? I use ACSoft's zones map, because I find it bug free and fairly accurate (taking in consideration not only latitude, but also aerial and oceanic streams). Nevertheless, I've modifies its ClimateZones.cfg in oder to have one Tropical Climate area, for equatorial climate, and two Tropical_A areas (respectively Northern and Southern):

given these conditions, the settings for Weather_Tropical.cfg could be:

(stock values for Min and Max weather change interval respectively 5 and 96 h).

As for Tropical_A areas, by checking more carefully the above mentioned ClimateZones.tga I noticed that they extend up and down to hot dry teamperate areas (like South Mediterranean, North Western Africa, Yucatan Peninsula and Gulf of Mexico, South Africa, Southern Australia, etc.). No way the climate of these regions can be considered equatorial, so your normal settings should apply to Weather_Tropical_A.cfg (higher variability during winter and intermediate seasons).
I hope I made myself clear. :DL



That is probably correct... My bad, I didn't think about it. :doh: Maybe Stoianm should call his mod real zoo environment, in order to be able to use those pictures as reference... :D
Still, there are documentarists making crazy things, like filming sharks and hippos by staying inside cages, or with the sole protection of "armoured" wet suits, but indeed we don't know if this is the case.



I've observed several times lions as far as 2-3 meters (!) from my car. They didn't care at all about my presence. This happened inside or close to the boundaries of national parks and game reserves, where they are used to the presence of human beings. Though I am not sure how they would react seeing unprotected humans, but they would most probably attack.
Yes, there are occasional reports of lone, nomad lions, too old to hold their own pride and pushed by starvation to kill cattle and sometimes even persons, because they are easy prays. Once they get used to this kind of behaviour it is difficult to dissuade them from this diet, and normally they have to be shoot down. Nevertheless as I said before, these eveniences are really uncommons, and humans aren't normally considered as prays by them.
Quite surprisingly, in subeqautorial Africa the most dangerous animals are not predators, but big herbivores: the record of attacks against humans is held by far by hippos, followed by elephants and buffaloes. They are irritable animals, and they can easily injure or kill people, especially when they think that their offspring is endangered by them.

Originally Posted by stoianm (Post 1640409)

I used the same tgs from acsoft because is very stable... the climatezones.cfg i do not use.. will be the one from w_clear .... i will change that to have like a subtemperate zone but i need long test to be sure it is stable ... untill than i will not usw the Temperate_A ... only i will create the color file ... and i will add him later

i will use for tropical weather min 5 and max 48 and for sub tropical weather min 3 and max 12 ... will be a nice combination:03:

Originally Posted by gap (Post 1640557)

Well, I think that if you want to use ACSoft ClimatZones.tga with W_Clear Real Environment you should take in consideration a general rework of the latter.
Reason is ACSoft .tga introduces new climatezones, generally narrower and not equally distributed around latitude compared to vanilla SH5 or real environment climatezones.tga. These changes should be reflected in ClimateZones.cfg. Existing Weather and EnvColors .cfg files should be renamed accordingly, in order to correct the change in latitude due to the two different CliamateZones.tga, and of course new ones should be created.
Not doing so would bring to the following problems (look at the chart for better understanding):

1) missing climate definitions for some areas existing in tga file as separate red values (question marks in the picture). I don't know how the game engine is going to manage them (possible CTD's?)
2) uncorrect climate for some areas. For instance a big part of Northern Atlantic Ocean (around UK) would be treated like a subpolar (polar_A) area, while in reality it got a temperate climate due to the Gulf Stream or Southern Mediterranean would be a tropical area whereas it isn't.
3) abrupt transition between different climate areas, due to the lack of intermediate zones.



In the next image I show the distribution of climate with the use of the same ClimateZones.tga and ClimateZones.cfg from the same mod (ACSoft) with some slight modifiction done by me (see my previous post):



As you can see, Climate Zones are now at their correct place:
- Polar (Northern and Southern) for polar climate. Two seasons;
- Polar_A (Northern and Southern) for subpolar climate around the polar circles and Scandinavian Peninsula;
- Temperate (Northern and Southern) for cold temperate climate (most of Northern Atlantic below the polar circle and North of Iberian Peninsula);
- Temperate_A (Northern and Southern) for middle temperate climate (mostly Atlantic Ocean off Iberian Peninsula and Northern Mediterranean Sea)
- Tropical_A (Northern and Southern) for hot-dry temperate and subtropical climate (Southern Mediterranean Sea and Atlantic Ocean between Gulf of Mexico and North Western Africa);
- Tropical Northern (actually not northern, as it lays on both sides of the equator) for equatorial hot wet climate (Atlentic Ocean between Caribbean Islands, Brazil, and Gulf of Guinea).

If you decide to apply these changes, I'm ready to support you with further information or in any other way compatibly with my modest modding skills. :salute:

Originally Posted by astradeus (Post 1640815)

I notice that you use my work on "climate zones".http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=1411954#post1411954
You made ​​a good choice. I added new climate zones it is possible to create new modder climatic environment. If you have any questions, I'm available. good job.:up:

Originally Posted by stoianm (Post 1640823)

Nope... i did not used your work in the climate zone... it is first time when i see your post... i used only the ACSoft tga and even that one will be reworked by Gap and the the rest of the files are from other old mods of mine combined and reworked... what files you think i used from you? ...but i am happy if you want to help.... what are your sugestions?

Originally Posted by astradeus (Post 1640832)

Gap understands the usefulness of new climatic zones. His new climatic zones "realists" (temperate_A Southem, tropical_A Southem, Northem temperate_A) offers you the possibility to create new colors and types of climates and oceans that has not n'exitaient the original games SH5.

Originally Posted by astradeus (Post 1640842)

Unfortunately, as time passed, I lost all my previous work on the flora and seabed.
I prefer to work independently. if courage and time allow me I would look is that I just do.

Originally Posted by fredl109 (Post 1641026)

Bonjour Stoianm, j'utilise votre mod et pour l'instant je n'ai que du bien a en dire, les changements de couleurs sont spectaculaires et du plus bel effet. Merci pour votre travail et a mon avis nous devrions faire un concours de prises de vues, cela le mérite.
Fred:DL:DL:DL:DL