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Skybird 03-18-11 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 1622054)
Yes, looks that way, I thought we'd sent them out to Afghanistan but it seems we didn't. Will be interesting to see how they handle against the Libyan Air Force...not that the Libyan Air Force is exactly that high tech, still, it'll give our boys some much needed air to air practice if it does go hot.

Personally I think Daffy will just ground his airforce and hide them like Saddam did.
If he is clever, he will. Which means they can be caught on the ground, yum-yum.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libyan_...orce_equipment

I'm not impressed. Some air transportation and gunship capacity, but air superiority fighters? None.

Question remains about Lybian SAM capacities.

Oberon 03-18-11 07:40 AM
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In 2009 the IISS estimated that Libya had Crotale, SA-7 Grail, SA-9/SA-13 surface to air missiles, and AA guns in Army service. A separate Air Defence Command has SA-2, SA-3, SA-5 Gammon, and SA-8b Gecko, plus guns.
Reported anti aircraft artillery includes Soviet 57 mm S-60, 23 mm self-propelled ZSU-23-4 and ZU-23-2, Czech M53/59 Praga, and Swedish Bofors 40mm guns.
How many of them actually work is another thing...

TLAM Strike 03-18-11 07:46 AM
Info on the Libyan SAM network

Skybird 03-18-11 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 1622074)
How many of them actually work is another thing...

If that is it, then it does not look like an air defence that cannot be dealt with. Higher altitude already would render most of these system useless. Those that can reach to higher altitudes, are old designs. No really modern threats there.

Which should not be an excuse to take it easy.

Jimbuna 03-18-11 07:52 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/...dy-for-war.html

Who is going to pay for this?

I thought we were broke :hmmm:

Skybird 03-18-11 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike (Post 1622078)
Again, I'm not impressed.

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CONCLUSION

At the end of the day, the Libyan strategic SAM network requires a massive infusion of new technology to remain viable in the twenty first century. It was not capable of repelling an attack over twenty years ago, and there is no reason to suspect that it will be capable of such action today. Libya is reportedly negotiating for the purchase of advanced S-300PMU-2 (SA-20B GARGOYLE) SAM systems from Russia, which would go a long way towards modernizing the network and restoring its effectiveness.
^this.

Skybird 03-18-11 08:00 AM
Gaddafi has just declared a one-sided cease-fire.

Who says force never works? In this case just a robust threat of imminent use of force already has caused a reaction - where all the clever diplomatic babbling about sanctions and lip-confessions have failed for two weeks.

The German government should blush in shame.

Oberon 03-18-11 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1622098)
Gaddafi has just declared a one-sided cease-fire.

Who says force never works? In this case just a robust threat of imminent use of force already has caused a reaction - where all the clever diplomatic babbling about sanctions and lip-confessions have failed for two weeks.
:doh: Well bugger me...it actually worked. :doh:

Skybird 03-18-11 08:03 AM
Next topic: the Saudis intervening in Bahreini uprise.

:06:

joegrundman 03-18-11 08:04 AM
you are too pleased with yourselves!

the rebels are already reduced to the point they can be handled with police tactics, and perhaps a negotiated solution

joegrundman 03-18-11 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1622101)
Next topic: the Saudis intervening in Bahreini uprise.

:06:
and yemen

we will not be siding with the protesters against the House of Saud, not for a long time. even if the protesters are currently in bahrain

The US-SA alliance is possibly the backbone of the modern world structure

Jimbuna 03-18-11 08:08 AM
A clever move by Gaddafi me thinks.

Hawk66 03-18-11 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1622098)
Gaddafi has just declared a one-sided cease-fire.


The German government should blush in shame.
+1

'Our' secretary of state is really the worst one since WWII in Germany. I've heard him yesterday in an interview in 'Deutschlandfunk'. He talks nonsense, he has no vision...his only intention is to survive the next two big regional elections in Germany.

What a shame!

Oberon 03-18-11 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1622107)
A clever move by Gaddafi me thinks.
Or someone who has Daffys ear. I don't see Daffy being that easily cowed by the UN, either that or he's not as senile as he looks and sounds.

Joe is right though, it's too late.

Herr-Berbunch 03-18-11 08:30 AM
5th Fleet anyone?


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