I don't think anyone is saying that we need to shut down the entire naval base. When people say shut down Guantanamo, they are referring to the concentration camp/prison/holding area/...

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Sorry for my bad mood ..

But what about people who are not terrorists?

Better shoot them, too. Just in case.

Kicked loose because of a trial perhaps? Or just kicked out ..... because?

I am all for punishing the guilty, I just want their guilt to be demonstrated in a court first.

So the fact that the government has been stuck holding people it says can go free wouldn't dent your "reality" would it.
Yet another ballsup from the silly attempt to dodge the legal system isn't it. The wonders of putting people in limbo then trying to take them out of it.

What utter nonsense.

Yep, some thug stabbed your wife and raped your daughter. We don't know which one, so we're going to round up all the known thugs, all the folks other folks claim are thugs, all the folks that look like thugs to us, and everybody else who might be a thug just because they live in the thugs' neighborhood. If the thugs won't tell us which thugs are which, we'll just hold 'em all until the cows come home. No cows? No problem. We'll just kick a few of them around and maybe shoot a couple for good measure. Somebody complains? Hey, we're the good guys, so shut up or you'll get the same treatment.

To be fair these people weren't rounded up last week. There has been plenty of time to determine the detainees true degree of involvement and danger if they're released.

Now Obama promised to close Gitmo during the campaign. Something has changed his mind. What does he have to gain by breaking that promise?

He has nothing to gain, quite the opposite.

Could it possibly be that you cannot shut a facility if you are blocked from moving its contents elsewhere?
Complicated stuff eh.

If there has been plenty of time to determine their true degree of involvement then there must have been plenty of time to get convictions.

lol pretty sure I took various clases covering natural rights and they are just a theory really, one that some believe in, one that other's do not.I believe my enemy, esp terrorists really have no natural or legal rights, only the right to be hanged.Okay mook if you say so.They way you reguarly get personal with me tells it all really.As far as being a joke, well can think of several people who find you to be a joke "around here", all in the eye of the beholder really.Calm down, it's just a discussion forum.

On this point is where you contradict the basic principles defined in theory by Locke and enumerated as fundamental American beliefs in the Declaration of Independence. They are not the law of the land spelled out in the Constitution, but they are nonetheless a formative part of our Nation.

I understand why some people are confused by this apparent contradiction.

Once again bubbles demonstrates that either he hasn't the faintest idea what he is talking about or that he is simply an unhinged loon.