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Bakkels 03-08-11 11:02 AM

Would you guys consider using the 'all weather guns' mod cheating? I'm thinking of downloading it. On the one hand I like the fact that you can't use your guns in rough weather, but I get pissed when I see merchants CAN use their guns in a storm.

Gargamel 03-08-11 11:25 AM

Imagine trying to do some complex task while skateboarding on a cobbled street in a rainstorm.

Now do that same task, on the same road, while riding a bus.

That's why ships can fire and subs can't.


Even in moderate weather where I could get the gun crew on deck, but the waves were rolling pretty decent, or at least in a harmonic with the boats motion, accuracy was almost nil. Some shots would sail 100's of m's over the ship, while others would plunk just a few meters from the u-boat.

But the ability to use the Flak guns in all weather is a different story. Especially for the guns up on the Turm. I recently sank a sloop with my flak gun in my IIa, then a day later, encountered another sloop, but in bad weather. So I rammed it. I didn't get credit because the wave action of pushing it under sank it. :nope:.

But another thing a lot of players do is if they can't get gun crews on deck, they won't reload externals.

Snestorm 03-08-11 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Bakkels (Post 1614873)
Would you guys consider using the 'all weather guns' mod cheating? I'm thinking of downloading it. On the one hand I like the fact that you can't use your guns in rough weather, but I get pissed when I see merchants CAN use their guns in a storm.

They're alot higher out of the water than us.

Jimbuna 03-08-11 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bakkels (Post 1614873)
Would you guys consider using the 'all weather guns' mod cheating? I'm thinking of downloading it. On the one hand I like the fact that you can't use your guns in rough weather, but I get pissed when I see merchants CAN use their guns in a storm.

You can read and listen to all the advice and opinions in the world but the bottom line is...play the game the way you feel it gives you the most enjoyment.

When I created the all weather guns mod it was with the sole intention of giving those who weren't happy with the games constraints an alternative option.

It probably would have been better had the game come with all weather guns as a realism gameplay option.

Sailor Steve 03-09-11 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bakkels (Post 1614873)
Would you guys consider using the 'all weather guns' mod cheating? I'm thinking of downloading it. On the one hand I like the fact that you can't use your guns in rough weather, but I get pissed when I see merchants CAN use their guns in a storm.

The downside is that if the gun crew can shoot, no crew member will wear foul-weather gear. The two are tied together. I have my storm conditions set for 11, just so I can use the flak guns (which I never do anyway, but that's just me), but I never have them man the deck gun when I can see water washing over the deck.

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Originally Posted by Snestorm
They're alot higher out of the water than us.

And a lot more stable.

Bakkels 03-09-11 12:24 PM

Yeah, I tried playing with the mod but indeed, when the weather is bad they're just standing there with their shirts like we're already sailing from Penang lol.
It didn't feel realistic enough for me so that mod has gotta go then.
Also, I guess you're right, it's much easier to fire a gun from a large steady ship than from a rocking and rolling U-boat. Didn't think of that. So now I can't fire my guns in a storm, but at least this explanation took my frustration away :)


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