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gimpy117 01-08-11 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by The Third Man (Post 1569783)
Except the congress woman wasn't opposing the tea party. If you check her home page/if you can, you will find she was very much aligned with the tea party.

http://giffords.house.gov/
then way was her office vandalized when she voted for the health care bill?
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Giffords had been targeted by U.S. conservatives over her support for passage last year of Obama's health-care reform legislation. Her Arizona office was vandalized, its front door smashed, after passage of the health care bill last March. -Calgary herald

oh and welcome to the party mookie.

Takeda Shingen 01-08-11 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by CCIP (Post 1569773)
Geez, you guys jump all over CptSimFreak making a minor reference to a popularly-known issue in Arizona politics, without any alignment, and then devolve into politicking and aligning a completely unidentified assassin with parties and sociopolitical leanings. For shame, especially in this tragedy :nope: Really, stop this and think about the human side of this for a second.

My hunch is that the motivation for this is, as with many of these shootings by young people, a delusion of grandeur and thirst for instant celebrity. Herostratus' fame, etc.
QFT

Stealth Hunter 01-08-11 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by The Third Man (Post 1569772)
John Wilkes Booth: Protestant Republican (nativist)
Charles J. Guiteau: Republican (who, in fact, worked on James Garfield's campaign and was at the Republican National Committee in 1880, and shot Garfield out of his own misled belief that he had caused him solely to win the election)
Leon Czolgosz: Anarchist
Lee Harvey Oswald: Cuban Democratic Revolutionary Front member (anti-Castro league; Oswald was also affiliated with the Fair Play for Cuba Committee, which, although it originally supported Castro, turned against him following his open remarks about Marxism and his nationalizing of the country's assets; evidently wasn't that much of a leftist since he also, you know, assassinated President Kennedy...)

Shall I cover attempted assassinations for you as well?

The Third Man 01-08-11 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by gimpy117 (Post 1569788)
then way was her office vandalized and shot up when she voted for the health care bill?

oh and welcome to the party mookie.
I have no idea. Is it a left issue or a country issue? Perhaps the left didn't think she was left enough.

Again this sounds like a very angry former employee.

Gerald 01-08-11 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen (Post 1569792)
QFT
I agree!

Stealth Hunter 01-08-11 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by The Third Man (Post 1569783)
Except the congress woman wasn't opposing the tea party. If you check her home page/if you can, you will find she was very much aligned with the tea party.

http://giffords.house.gov/
Yet she was not endorsed by them and is not a member. In fact, she ran against Tea Party candidate Jesse Kelly during 2010's representative election.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...008#District_8

Stealth Hunter 01-08-11 04:05 PM
She's still alive, but in critical condition- and still in surgery.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews

Tribesman 01-08-11 04:08 PM
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I have no idea.
QFT:har:

TheDarkWraith 01-08-11 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter (Post 1569807)
She's still alive, but in critical condition- and still in surgery.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews
Do they know what kind of gun was used? A .22 would be bad because it lacks enough energy to exit the skull and thus bounces around inside scrambling everything. Thus is why most assassins choose this caliber at short range when targeting the head.

The Third Man 01-08-11 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter (Post 1569807)
She's still alive, but in critical condition- and still in surgery.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews

I pray for her.

TFatseas 01-08-11 04:13 PM
Jesus....

A Congress Women, Fed. Judge, aides and some others get shot and all you guys can do is argue is what side of the political spectrum the shooter MUST be on?

Meh, I had more typed out but it's not worth it...

Gerald 01-08-11 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith (Post 1569811)
Do they know what kind of gun was used? A .22 would be bad because it lacks enough energy to exit the skull and thus bounces around inside scrambling everything. Thus is why most assassins choose this caliber at short range when targeting the head.
I do not think I've seen that information, but apparently an automatic weapon,which in turn can include many different kinds of weapons

TFatseas 01-08-11 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith (Post 1569811)
Do they know what kind of gun was used? A .22 would be bad because it lacks enough energy to exit the skull and thus bounces around inside scrambling everything. Thus is why most assassins choose this caliber at short range when targeting the head.
Sheriff said "pistol with an extended magazine, and I'm not saying anything further."

GoldenRivet 01-08-11 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by TFatseas (Post 1569817)
Jesus....

A Congress Women, Fed. Judge, aides and some others get shot and all you guys can do is argue is what side of the political spectrum the shooter MUST be on?

Meh, I had more typed out but it's not worth it...
hear hear :up:

Growler 01-08-11 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TFatseas (Post 1569817)
Jesus....

A Congress Women, Fed. Judge, aides and some others get shot and all you guys can do is argue is what side of the political spectrum the shooter MUST be on?

Meh, I had more typed out but it's not worth it...
Ah, speculation. It's old hat by now.

"Absent new info, make shtuff up to fill airtime" has been the model in the media for so long now that it's only natural that it would extend into other arenas.


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