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Gerald 09-08-10 12:51 PM

I think he has seen too many Clint Eastwood movies
 
very clever

Aramike 09-08-10 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1488059)
I see it as the same thing as the mosque controversy. Just because it's a stupid idea, doesn't mean you don't have a constitutional right to do it.

It's only sowing more hatred into the world. I don't think that any Christian church should be doing that. But no one can stop him from doing so.

Indeed, I agree.

WarlordATF 09-08-10 05:00 PM

I support this guys right to burn the Quran. Like many of you i also don't think its the smart thing to do, but i doubt it will cause more deaths because of it. The Muslim crazys will kill you any chance they get, this might make them angry, but it changes nothing because they wanted to kill you all along.

I am not talking about all Muslim followers, just the militant crazies. There are many good people of the Muslim faith, but like any belief system you will have nuts that pervert it to fit their own vision.

Also I am so tired of hearing that "You can't do that, it might offend someone". How far do we go to keep from offending? This is not a happy perfect world, people offend people, its been going on since the dawn of time. If this guys wants to have his fire, let him. He has the right and if some Muslims are offended, too bad, this is America.

JU_88 09-08-10 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by WarlordATF (Post 1488196)
I support this guys right to burn the Quran. Like many of you i also don't think its the smart thing to do, but i doubt it will cause more deaths because of it. The Muslim crazys will kill you any chance they get, this might make them angry, but it changes nothing because they wanted to kill you all along.

I am not talking about all Muslim followers, just the militant crazies. There are many good people of the Muslim faith, but like any belief system you will have nuts that pervert it to fit their own vision.

Also I am so tired of hearing that "You can't do that, it might offend someone". How far do we go to keep from offending? This is not a happy perfect world, people offend people, its been going on since the dawn of time. If this guys wants to have his fire, let him. He has the right and if some Muslims are offended, too bad, this is America.


I agree with your first point, the concern with the Quaran burning is not because of what fundementalists might do (As you say if they want to attack something they were gonna do it anyway.)

Imho the reason its so f**king dumb

1) Its disrespectful to the decent muslims
2) Its an embarressment to the decent Christians.

But thats the world all over, it only takes a few *******s to ruin it for everyone else.

I dont quite agree with your second point, since burning a holy book, national flag or whatever is only done for one reason - to cause offence! just as you would if you punched someone in the face.
They are not burning Quarans just because they are cheaper than BBQ charcole. :)

Its not the same as say; the Danish Islamic cartoons, they were intended as humour - but it caused offence.
Intention is everything.

Alex 09-08-10 05:49 PM

@ WarlordATF : Excuse me, but LOL. I sincerely hope most people in the united states have another way of thinking.

Just to sum up what you said : "Man, people = sh!t, no one gets out of here alive, this world is fncked-np, so why not setting the Mecca on fire", eh ? :o


2 things. Not only burning this book is NOT going to bring any of the victims of the twin towers back. It's only going to get YOU AMERICAN people more and more nervous about muslims and all. But also if that guy ever gets to do what he wants to do, don't you think that he's going to satisfy more than one integrist showing publicly how much they got their mark on YOUR History ?

I do not support radical Islam in any way. But what's the point in trying to offend someone via this kind of fact, whereas the only thing everyone will remember in the end is how much a bunch of turbaned people got to frighten the almighty united states of America.


Personally I can't even despise muslims : I'd need to regard them with esteem first to despise them later.

Dowly 09-09-10 02:22 AM

Let's make a compromise, burn the pastor. :hmmm:

Tribesman 09-09-10 02:41 AM

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Let's make a compromise, burn the pastor.
If he was a good christian do you think that if you hung him over the coals he would turn himself over once one side was done?

Anyone think that this stunt is just a lame marketing ploy to publicise his book on a subject that he himself says he knows nothing about and has no experience of?

Dowly 09-09-10 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1488436)
If he was a good christian do you think that if you hung him over the coals he would turn himself over once one side was done?

Hahaha :haha:

Alex 09-09-10 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Dowly (Post 1488431)
Let's make a compromise, burn the pastor. :hmmm:

ROFLMAO ! :har: :har: :har: :har:

Bubblehead1980 09-09-10 03:32 AM

Hopefully one day people will realize the books such as the quran, bible etc are just fairy tales perhaps from ancient acid trips or something that somehow became fact to many people and over the years has infested the earth.Hopefully someday the human race will grow up.So burn the quran I say, let the muslims act like the fools they are.Burn the bible next.

Dowly 09-09-10 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 1488454)
Hopefully one day people will realize the books such as the quran, bible etc are just fairy tales perhaps from ancient acid trips or something that somehow became fact to many people and over the years has infested the earth.Hopefully someday the human race will grow up.So burn the quran I say, let the muslims act like the fools they are.Burn the bible next.

I agree. :yep:

Alex 09-09-10 04:38 AM

@ Bubblehead1980 : Saying such things, the only thing you do is bringing yourself as low as the people you're speaking about, making yourself the kind of person you think muslims are.

God knows how few things still have a real importance in this world, and you seem to be happy to disown your past and renounce your forefathers's faith. Poor you. :o

But well, there's no point in interacting with an hopeless mind...

DarkFish 09-09-10 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex (Post 1488481)
and you seem to be happy to disown your past and renounce your forefathers's faith. Poor you. :o

What's wrong with renouncing the faith of ones forefathers?

Besides, forefathers is always relative. Up until x generations back, my forefathers from my father's side were catholic, from my mother's side protestant. Go back some more generations and both sides will very likely have been Germanic Paganists. So are my forefathers catholic, protestant or Germanic Paganists? Am I renouncing my forefathers' faith by being a Paganist, or am I reinstating my older forefathers' faith?

If Bubblehead doesn't believe the same thing his forefathers did, so what? If he hopes all religions will be destroyed, so what? It doesn't make him any poorer than someone who beliefs. IMHO it makes him a lot wiser.

antikristuseke 09-09-10 05:13 AM

Just because someone believes in it does not make it true, evidence is what matters, religion is somewhat light in that department. When I say light, i mean religion has **** all going for it in the evidence department.

DarkFish 09-09-10 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by antikristuseke (Post 1488496)
Just because someone believes in it does not make it true, evidence is what matters, religion is somewhat light in that department. When I say light, i mean religion has **** all going for it in the evidence department.

In fact pretty much the only "evidence" for religion is "we don't know why phenomenon X exists, so it must be a god who created it".


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