This is a US story, we're only concerned with US eyeballs and US media.

Fox News is under 10% of news-viewership, and that's ALL shows on fox news vs just the "nightly news" on networks, not Fox's actual news.

So news viewership at fox vs the networks is noise, sorry.

Newspapers are down across the board, and none with major readership are really conservative (the WSJ being the largest circulation with anything like a conservative slant).

There are no US newsmagazines that are conservative at all (no one reads them anymore anyway, 'cept in waiting rooms).

Something to keep in mind.

Something to keep in mind. Yeah you said that already.

Actually its 87 thousand from CBS

And NBC said 300k.

The park service could tell us, but when it became clear the "million man march" numbers were grossly exaggerated, the park service stopped publishing their numbers.

And???????
You mean that the hundreds of local broadcasters who get their news segments to broadcast from Fox are not getting Fox news:doh:

Thats Newscorp isn't it, so the same news media empire as fox, can you run through all the "liberal" media national broadcasters who have deals with that group?

Your measure of mainstream media is way off as you are taking one group, limiting the measure of that group to one tiny portion of one small segment of one bloody big circle in the middle of a huge venn diagram and saying "oooooo look isn't that dot small"

Because I don't appreciate being told what to do by someone who isn't my boss, immediate supervisor, etc. When there are kids around, or if its a family enviorment, Sure, i watch my language. But when it's just a bunch of guys talking amongst themselves? Not really. In any event, its not like i drop profanity every time i post. Once in awhile, yeah, but not very often, and if neal wants (or you want neal to) to boot me from subsim (again) for using profanity once in awhile, that's yours or his porogotive, but im not going to sit here like a welp with my tail between my legs simply because you don't like my choice of words. I will not be scared or intimidated into doing anything. Truth be told, my profanity level has decreased through the years. 15 years every other word I uttered would be words you seem to get up all in arms over.

The thing is, ive seen in just about every sub forum that you seem to be the profanity monitor. Someone slips so much as "****", which is censored, you then proceed to have a cow. EVERY TIME. And every time i think, "Lighten up for christ sakes!". Seriously man, if a small amount of profanity ruin your day, you must walk through life gritting your teeth.

The ratings are for national, nightly news. They list the viewerships. Fox is noise. Local stations? You have been to the US, I believe, from other posts. You know then that the local news is ABC, CBS, and NBC, with some markets having Fox.

Our "Fox" local news is actually CBS. There is no Fox in NM at all. None. That is typical, in fact. A few big cities likely have local Fox news.

So all the local news is still the same national outlets (local stories done locally, and ll national/international stuff identical to the national news reports.

Fox News is noise. Really.

Oh dear, a quick look at fox news says 13 local broadcasters in New Mexico have its news programs one also has its business news program and another does one of its talking heads offers.

That explains your reaction to me, which is more than fair, but it doesn't explain the use in the first place.

But there are kids here. Which is not the reason for my reaction. More on that later.

Not my prerogative at all. I have no authority or power to do anything but whine.

Nor should you be intimidated. For me it's a matter of respect is all. Well, maybe a little more than that. More on that later.

Very true. On the other hand people use useless language just because it's there. On the one hand they defend it by saying it doesn't mean anything, but on the other why say things that don't mean anything? As I see it it serves no purpose at all, so when I smash my thumb with a hammer, sure; but just to throw it out there? Useless.

And to me that's the worst. If you believe in Christ, that's offensive. If you don't, why offend? Just because you can? (wait, I used that one already).

I do walk through life gritting my teeth. Not mainly because of that (though it's part of it), but because of the rules. I don't believe in racial or national characteristics, but I have a friend who insists that they are real, and that my German ancestry makes me more "law-and-order" than most other people. So yes, seeing the rules broken makes me grind my teeth and pull my hair more than just about anything else.

Obsessive-compulsive? Somewhat.

Better-than-thou? No, I avoid that one like a plague, but sometimes it slips in and then slips out of its own accord.

Closet Nazi? (oh no, what's-his-name's law strikes again!) Quite possibly, in that I hate disorder more than almost anything.

So I try to control it, but when something annoys me I have to say something. If that offends you, I apologize. My only choices however, are to say something, develop an ulcer, or go away. The last one isn't going to happen, the second one I avoid at all costs, so the easiest thing is to criticize.

So there.

The other side?

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Remember........

A member of the New Black Panther Party was captured on video as he stood outside a polling place in Philadelphia on election day 2008 with a nightstick. The Bush Justice Department filed a civil case against the man, another New Black Panther Party member and the national party with voter intimidation. Once Obama took office, the Justice Department decided there wasn't enough evidence to merit the case against the other Black Panther and the national party, but obtained an injunction against the man carrying the nightstick.

I think he made it to page 8 of the Orlando Setaturdonfire.

Okay, fine - 1 tshirt in 87,000 ... that was against racism.

Please reconcile.

I dislike Palin but she rather popular and despite her being a bit of a dumb hick, she's a force to be reckoned with and will continue to be one, whether you, me, or anyone else likes it or not. Just saying...

So what if there were very few people of color in that rally? An event is not racist just because it does not attract a large number of minorities.Asserting someone or something is racist just because does not attract minorities in mass is racist in itself.

Most white people would not feel comfortable at a Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton rally and even though those two are clearly racist people, the even itself is not racist just because white people do not attend in mass.

No projection here, the term whitestock is racist.Imagine if someone called a large gathering of black people "blackstock" or something more creative like "watermelon-a-palooza" which hopefully they would never but just using that as an example, that would be racist.However, it seems you think only white people can be racist and thus white people are fair game for racial insults.I agree the term "whitestock" is funny but decided to point it out since you often pull the race card.

As far as the picture goes, well the shirt was in bad taste and he should not have but not racist really because it's true.All movements attract nuts.The far Left anti-war protesters attack ignorant people who don't understand things, all they know is they hate war.However, that guy is not the majority of the Tea Party movement.Left wing media would love everyone to believe that but it's simply not the case.Having said that, that guy is pretty disgusting.

There were very few people of color other than black, at the MLK speech.