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Skybird 08-28-10 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1479188)
Is it accepted that every homosexual is in favour of gay marriage?

No. I knew two gays at university (they were no couple). Both were aginst gay marraiges, and their freinds as well. All of them also hated CSD. They indicated that most gays are not in favour of these two. especially CSD is quite hated amongst many gays, for it is a freak show that gives all gays in general a bad image.

I feel I am in good company when I speak out against parades and legal and financial equality between normal families and homosexual partnerships.

Bilge_Rat 08-28-10 05:37 AM

whoa, 4 pages already!!

to re-focus the thread a bit and maybe the title of the thread is misleading :D, the original article I linked to discussed the fact that Republicans as a whole and conservatives in particular are now saying that the most pressing issues are economic.

Social issues, like gay marriage, appear to be less of a hot button issue than in 2004, partly because republicans, like democrats, are all over the map on the issue, much like american society as a whole.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/27/us...1&ref=politics

Tribesman 08-28-10 05:42 AM

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Social issues, like gay marriage, appear to be less of a hot button issue than in 2004, partly because republicans, like democrats, are all over the map on the issue, much like american society as a whole.
Maybe its not such an issue as there have been a raft of very vocal "homophobes" who turned out to be rather fond of the back door delivery which has weakened the moral outrage angle for the religious right.

tater 08-28-10 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by frau kaleun (Post 1479117)
I did not bash conservatives overall as hateful. However there are those on the religious right who do engage in very public displays of anti-GLBT sentiment, and generally speaking they are part of the "Moral Majority" crowd that - like it or not - makes up part of the GOP base and has for some time. Whether or not other conservatives or the GOP leadership itself agrees with them with regard to their social/cultural agenda is another matter entirely. As is the question of whether or not they will remain part of the base if the GOP appears to be moving away from support of that agenda in some fashion. Which IMO is what makes it somewhat newsworthy when a fairly prominent Republican chooses to come out as a homosexual.

The moral majority crowd (who I can't stand, BTW) seem to want to "save" the gays from themselves. Are they against gay marriage? Yeah. So are the vast majority of blacks in the US (90% democrats). The "god hates fags" guy and his church? Democrats.

It crosses lines.

AVGWarhawk 08-28-10 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1479359)
The only real news is that when he was secretly gay he followed the party line and supported those who oppose gay marriage and now he is saying he supports gay marriage

My God man.....we see eye to eye on this dribble of a news article! :yeah: However, you cut to the point of it much more cleanly than I. :yeah:

Konovalov 08-28-10 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1479617)
My God man.....we see eye to eye on this dribble of a news article! :yeah: However, you cut to the point of it much more cleanly than I. :yeah:

Agree with you both. He wouldn't be the first to be stuck in such a situation of having to tow the party line.

frau kaleun 08-28-10 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tater (Post 1479458)
The moral majority crowd (who I can't stand, BTW) seem to want to "save" the gays from themselves. Are they against gay marriage? Yeah. So are the vast majority of blacks in the US (90% democrats). The "god hates fags" guy and his church? Democrats.

It crosses lines.

In reality, most things do. I'm talking about perception. For many in the moral majority crowd, the GOP has long been perceived as the (major) party most likely to support or at least not stand in the way of their social agenda. If the party is instead perceived as "harboring" without complaint more and more people who are anathema to that agenda by their very existence (regardless of their views on particular bits of potential legislation), does this lessen the amount of support it can count on from those who consider that agenda the most important factor in casting their votes? Only time will tell.

FWIW, I went to the Westboro Baptist Church's website (godhatesfags.com) and looked through as much of it as I could manage without, you know, retching. I couldn't find any indication that they support or endorse any one party or its candidates. It's all about their self-described Calvinist doctrine and hating gay people. If you look at their "Library" page you'll see Obama referred to as the Antichrist and Bush as a mongrel, so it seems that at least officially they're an equal opportunity bunch when it comes to hating on politicians and their presumed platforms. Who the individual members actually vote for, assuming they actually vote, is another matter of course, but I see no reason to label the organization itself as Dem or Repub or anything other than, IMO, certifiably nuts or some kind of extended and perverse performance art.

tater 08-28-10 05:37 PM

Find the wiki on the founder, he's a registered democrat.

The overwhelming majority of US Muslims are democrats, too. As are Nation of Islam idiots (any overlap with actual Islam purely coincidental ;) ). Being a religious nut job doesn't constrain you to one party.

I agree, the "moral majority" and some other groups are certainly R voters, almost entirely on the abortion issue.

Bottom line is that pols on both sides fall over themselves to proove they are religious, even those that are likely not religious at all. Lying about your religion is pretty despicable, IMHO.


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