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krashkart 06-22-10 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl (Post 1425792)
No kidding. One of my personal pet peeves when people bash the war in Iraq or put Germany on the stool of eternal guilt for the holocaust, while they cheerfully ignore all the holocausts since then and before then. Armenians, Russians, Russian Jews, Kurds, Shiites, half of Africa, Cambodia, China, Tibet, Vietnam, etc.... etc... nobody gives a rat's ass about them. I guess genocide is only an atrocity when there's a popular movie about it. Speaking of which, the Turks have been killing the Kurds for how long now? This is suddenly news? Must be a slow day.

I will refrain from using curse words to describe the hypocritical, self-centered, self-righteous......people that consider the invasion of Iraq to be unjust while they fall to their knees and beg forgiveness from the rest of the world for US intervention.

I do not count myself among their number. Politically, I'm more than happy to see other parts of the world tear themselves to pieces. More for US! Personally, I will and have put my own ass on the line to stop such atrocities, and I'd do it again, if they'd let me. Too bad the PMC's got nerfed, or I'd be sending in applications left and right to do my part. I guess I'll have to hold my breath for the omniscient states of the world to do something effective. Anyone got a cryo-stasis chamber I can borrow for forever?

I can literally feel my vocabulary degenerating into a veritable cornucopia of expletives as I write this, so I'll sign off with this: If you have a problem with killing for whatever reason, get your sorry ass on the line and do something about it!


I'll post something reasonable after I've calmed down.

I can relate to that, and I won't get into why. But, yeah. :)


Off the cuff... I may be horribly inaccurate in saying this, *but it took several Hollywood movies and an indie documentary or three to raise awareness of atrocities in Africa. That and a lot of books and other efforts that I'm not aware of. It didn't really change the odds of African villagers losing dignity, lives and/or various portions of their bodies to warrior machetes and young Kalash, but elsewhere at least some people began to research where their diamonds were coming from. All it has done is force the bad guys to switch up their fundraising efforts. *bonk*

Anyway, I don't mean to derail the thread. Tribal warfare in Africa was my main focus when I still dug into these kinds of issues.


* Pretty sure I missed something; but I'm not too picky that way.

August 06-22-10 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl (Post 1425792)
.. nobody gives a rat's ass about them

The reason is I think because the perpetrators generally don't give a rat's ass about the accusation, indeed they might even be proud of it Do you think people like OTH would be badmouthing our country at every opportunity if our consistent response was only an unconcerned shrug of the shoulders?

UnderseaLcpl 06-22-10 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1425888)
The reason is I think because the perpetrators generally don't give a rat's ass about the accusation, indeed they might even be proud of it Do you think people like OTH would be badmouthing our country at every opportunity if our consistent response was only an unconcerned shrug of the shoulders?

Yeah, actually, I think they might:DL I think people like that reason that because the US has more, everyone else is getting less...or something. If it wasn't this it'd be something else, or possibly the same thing. I couldn't say, I don't understand their rationale.

OneToughHerring 06-23-10 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring (Post 1425855)
Absolutely. Unfortunately even I can't make the US media look favourably upon the PKK (Kurdistan Workers Party).

http://pontosandaristera.files.wordp...kers_party.gif

Long live the PKK! :)

Also, Abdullah Öcalan is still being held in a Turkish prison, there has been international pressure put on the Turkish to release him.

krashkart 06-23-10 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl (Post 1425899)
Yeah, actually, I think they might:DL I think people like that reason that because the US has more, everyone else is getting less...or something. If it wasn't this it'd be something else, or possibly the same thing. I couldn't say, I don't understand their rationale.

The ever-widening gap between rich and poor. I remember having conversations some years ago with a guy from India. He really did not like the fact that the US eats up such a disproportionate amount of resources for its population, while at the same time he was caring for people in his country who were suffering from tuberculosis and too poor to afford proper medical treatment. This was also during one of the skirmishes with Pakistan, so he had probably some other things to be upset about, too. Anyway, I can see their point of view as much as I can (for being so far removed from their reality), and it's frustrating. How can one sit down to an enjoyable lunch with someone who resents our country for reasons that are so obvious to us? :rotfl2:


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