Too bad there is hardly any info on the Kugelpanzer.
Someone must know something about it.:damn:

@TLAM Strike


That's it. Thanks for the reminder:up:

At least the infantry uses MILES so most likely the tanks have the same.:salute:

Here you can see the system working in the HQ.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7TVJLdBNU0

How many of those top ten tanks have been in combat?

Another interesting statistic would be how many have been lost in combat.....but that may need a pro rata response because the Abrams has possibly seen the most combat.

Indeed, these are war machines and to defined a top ten they must have been in combat, unless this is a top ten good looking tank. :rotfl2:

I don't agree with that.
That would mean, that all testing and all exercises are useless, which I doubt.
Tanks are tested for survivability under live fire (AFAIK) and their ability to engage targets and their reliability are tested throughout exercises against top notch tanks.
I don't think that any tank engagement in Iraq gave you different results from exercise engagements against other Nato tanks (except for that the other Nato tanks did surely pose more of a (simulated) threat than the outdated T 55s and T72s of Iraq).

WOW, best tank ever!!! Those T34 commanders would be crying at the sight of it!!!

Using the data from that tank-site Bilge Rat has olnked to on page 1, again I read that the latest German Tungsten round at 2000m is rated to have the same (indeed slightly higher) penetration power (I know I know, it is not really "penetration", but let's keep it simple, for sake of simplicity) than the third generation DU round that the Americans use. No surprise until here, I have read that before occasionally, and SBP even copies exactly the data given on that site in it's info tables about the ammunitions available in the sim. I assume it is due to different designs, and of course the higher muzzle velocity of the German ammunition.

I wonder if anybody has data on how both ammunitions compare at higher ranges of 3000 and 4000 meters? I would assume that at the greater ranges, the American DU gains an advantage over Tungsten, or do I assume wrong?

Though we never know for sure which is the best tank until they are pitched against each other in world war 3,

we could easily see which countries are most obsessed with tank building(developing)

In no particular order,
Germany, UK, Israel, and France being the latest comer.

I wouldn't put US or Russia as among countries most obsessed with tank building though.

To give an idea of how vulnerable a tank is just look at this picture


http://newwars.files.wordpress.com/2...leopard2a6.jpg
http://newwars.files.wordpress.com/2...2a6.jpg%3Cu%3E

http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/1...anada02vk0.jpg

Aint that stupid :D
A tank within the chicken cage.

Thats called Slat Armor. It detonates RPGs and other HEAT warheads before they strike the hull.

Its actually very smart, in the old days they would rig concertina wire around a parked tank to have the same effect. It worked good on RPGs but Recoiless Rifles tended to still get through and of course it couldn't be used while the tank was on the move.

I know what it is it tells in a clear manner that their default armor couldn't withstand these weapons. It tells that despite their armor they are vulnerable and necessitate the 'chicken cage' installed.

The slat armor are originally intended for light armor vehicles such as the Stryker combat systems. Their use into MBTs tell a loud message that MBTs are vulnerable too. ANd MBTs have only been donned these 'chicken cage' armors recently (well under 10 years time) and it was more like an emergency response to a sudden realization that AT weapons are catching up faster than what the experts had expected.

SLAT armor is a simple solution to a simple problem. RPGs are only effective at close ranges- closer than the maximum range of the tank's weapons, the urban warfare the USA and USMC is being called on to do in Iraq forces their Tanks to fight within range of enemy RPGs. So its add armor (Slat armor is light, cheap and effective while addition conventional armor is heavy, expensive and would require a redesign) or fight at a distance- IE leveling the town.

Plus SLAT armor is less dangerous to accompanying infantry that ERA.

I assume they are using Slat armor in Afghanistan (based on those photos I assume that Afghanistan because of the mountains) because of "Ye Ole' RPG wired to a board on the side of the road" trick. The armor on those MBTs appears to be set up to defeat side attacks, which lends credit to that theory.

SLAT armor works great against HEAT, the traditional armor works great against SABOT. Its a win/win.