How much more do I have to say to own up to what anyone can clearly infer?

Tater seemed to be able to pick it up pretty easily. As did pretty much anyone else that read it. You, my friend, were misguidedly attempting to demonize, despite the fact that the point had little to protest.

Here, just in case it wasn't clear: a hispanic administrator protested an AMERICAN student's apparel, in the US, on May 5th. A reasonable conclusion could be that his motivations were at least in part racially motivated.

Not sure what you mean by "agenda", however, as drawing a conclusion is hardly indicative of such a thing.

Guys, I think we're blowing a stupid decision made by a high school principal way out of proportion. :yawn:

Yes, uniforms in public schools. I have kids, so I outrank you. :O:

You'd say the same if it was some fundamentalist Christian principal who sent home kids with religious shirts from some other religion—but allowed Christian shirts?

I think not.

I can tell you one thing, I might be of a different political stripe from you, but I never have a double standard. I'd be all over a fundie doing that. I frankly see no reason for a public school to make any notice of a Mexican holiday (not even widely celebrated in mexico as I understand it, at least officially) at all. There is no reason to encourage it any more than Bastille Day. American kids—even if their families came from Mexico—are not Mexican, they are American. I don't even know what the analogous German and Swedish holidays are (if any), and that's MY background. I also don't care. My grandmother was born in Sweden, but I'm no more Swedish than my friend Pablo (ancestors in NM for many hundreds of years on the Spanish side, and Zuni for thousands of years on the other). Why? We were both born to American parents, we share far more cultural affinity than either of us do with someone from Europe.

Right now I see too many la raza "reconquista" types pushing
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_iGggGfFOpZ...ko-de-mayo.jpg
to care for it much.

Then I don't want to pay for public schools.:DL

I have to agree with Neal on this one. Perhaps its the public's job to pay for educating our youth - but it is NOT the public's job to provide a forum for students to express themselves freely.

Out of proportion how? It's a point of interest, worthy of discussion. Nothing more, certainly nothing less. :cool:

And the public is not paying for their free expression, the kids parents are. Last I heard public schools did not buy clothes for the children.

There are two sides on the school uniform issue - but I have to come down on the side of pro - and here is why.

Schools are supposed to be safe, secure facilities where your child is focused on learning. While that is a pipe dream, school uniforms do enhance the safety of the children - as it keeps kids from being killed over a pair of shoes someone else wants. It reduces bullying because there is one less thing to target another person over (and dress is a BIG contributor to bullying), and assists in keeping the social strata less clear to the kids, meaning they are able to socialize in a more healthy (cross-levels) way. Uniforms help ease divides along racial/ethnic lines, while teaching children that their appearance is important.

A taxpayer doesn't pay for the uniforms, so whether or not a school has a uniform code or not doesn't matter when it comes to the monetary costs. However, without a uniform code, the taxpayer IS paying for a forum where a student can "express" themselves - at the cost of causing issues and disruption to the rest of the students. Is the purpose of the school to allow kids to "express themselves", or is it there to educate them? Requiring them uniforms is no more a breach of their "freedom of speech" than it is for there to be a requirement to remove a hat or cap when inside a courtroom. No one is limiting their right to speak as they choose (within the confines of not being disruptive). Freedom of expression... so if a kid wants to wear a thong to school, a sock over his privates and one on each ear in mockery of an elephant, we should allow it - because its freedom of expression? How about the senior who wants to wear a toga to school, since he saw some college kids do it at a party? I could go on and on. Uniforms make sense.

Kids don't like them - I realize that. But then again... they don't like homework - maybe they shouldn't have that either. Heck, they don't like school, using the whole "freedom of expression" arguement, we are limiting their freedom to express they want to be lazy bums by making them get up and actually catch the bus, or go to class. :doh: How far do you want to take that arguement?

I am no great flag-swinger myself and have difficulties to understand the feelings some people associate with displaying national symbols. But even I can understand that this story is absurd, and describes a story that is wrong and in this way should not have happened.

Absurd, really. Mexican holiday or not, they still are celebrating it in and inside AMERICA, aren't they. Or did America temporarily seized to exist on that day...?

Okay its now offical everything is back asswards...

Quote:

Local School Suspends Student for Removing MEXICAN Flag

http://www.ktrh.com/pages/michaelberry.html

Whoa whoa whoa...I agree with you on this issue. Ok? :DL I just think that reading too much into a stupid decision made by some overly-PC high school principal is just taking it a bit too far.

:salute:

Perhaps we are Mookie but this is a demonstration of where the country is headed. Soon just taking a breath will offend someone. When does one say enough? :hmmm:

And so it continues...when is to little to late?


They demaned to have the boys suspended? WTH?

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local...-93065324.html

The Americans in that district should all march onto the school wearing the US colours and remind them in which country they live in.

HunterICX