Originally Posted by SimHq Tom Cofield (Post 1389054)

Thyro, did you even read the review of the game?

I won't bother you to go and actually try reading it again but here is the final part of my review. Let me know how this is a recommendation to buy it.

Once players can get past these issues, there is a potential for a lot of fun with this game. There is a lot of good here and I honestly think that if Silent Hunter 5 follows the series history and is patched adequately, this will be a winner. Sadly, the fact is for right now, I cannot recommend Silent Hunter 5: Battle of the Atlantic in its current condition.

That is not a recommendation.

Originally Posted by robbo180265 (Post 1390056)

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w...0265/bongo.jpg

A case of the pot calling the kettle black methinks....

Originally Posted by thyro (Post 1390081)

Dear Tom

No need patronising, ok! I've read it entirely review and recommendation otherwise I wouldn't be bothered to commenting on it. Apologies but I have to disagree with your remarks on the recommendation.

By pre-empting the recommendation with following phase on 1st line, you created expectation on potential buyer. So what you wrote next doesn't really matter, simply because you triggered the impulse on buying the game whatever state it is (its the best game in-depth on the market), when reality is well far from being the best game.

Boy, is this a hard game to not recommend. Silent Hunter 5: Battle of the Atlantic is one of the more in-depth (no pun intended) games

The graphs are beautiful, the AI dummy shenanigans glitches might be sorted and sometime in the future the half game can become eventually a game. All true with one exception, no one knows the future and meantime another person wasted money on half product to remain on the shelve of being thrown in the bin.

Apologies if I'm being pedantic but that trick of saying good things to ease the pain and then end up disclaiming cannot recommend is a good trick in my view and for this reason only I cannot agree. As overall review it is fine and in some aspects detailed but all that work (to me got lost on that 1st phrase of your recommendation).

I have to agree with one thing... SH5 as good chances of becoming the most in-depth game on the market but not now, not even tomorrow. It will take time, most probably years... well IF IT GETS FINISHED.

Cheers

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat (Post 1390098)

hmmm, let's see,

Tom Cofield: respected staff writer and wargamer who has reviewed many wargames, has a reputation both here and at SIMHQ for providing fair and unbiased reviews, who has spent many hours objectively reviewing the qualities and faults of SH5 and written both a preview and a review.

Thyro: does not own and has never played SH5.

Its a difficult choice, but I think I will have to go with Tom on this one...:arrgh!:

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat (Post 1390098)

hmmm, let's see,

Tom Cofield: respected staff writer and wargamer who has reviewed many wargames, has a reputation both here and at SIMHQ for providing fair and unbiased reviews, who has spent many hours objectively reviewing the qualities and faults of SH5 and written both a preview and a review.

Thyro: does not own and has never played SH5.

Its a difficult choice, but I think I will have to go with Tom on this one...:arrgh!:

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat (Post 1390098)

hmmm, let's see,

Tom Cofield: respected staff writer and wargamer who has reviewed many wargames, has a reputation both here and at SIMHQ for providing fair and unbiased reviews, who has spent many hours objectively reviewing the qualities and faults of SH5 and written both a preview and a review.

Thyro: does not own and has never played SH5.

Its a difficult choice, but I think I will have to go with Tom on this one...:arrgh!:

Originally Posted by SimHq Tom Cofield (Post 1389054)

Thyro, did you even read the review of the game?

I won't bother you to go and actually try reading it again but here is the final part of my review. Let me know how this is a recommendation to buy it.

Once players can get past these issues, there is a potential for a lot of fun with this game. There is a lot of good here and I honestly think that if Silent Hunter 5 follows the series history and is patched adequately, this will be a winner. Sadly, the fact is for right now, I cannot recommend Silent Hunter 5: Battle of the Atlantic in its current condition.

That is not a recommendation.

Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1379988)

Clearly someone who has spent time with the game. Very nice review.