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tommyk 02-27-10 07:58 AM

"I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!"

Noren 02-27-10 07:58 AM

ok that does it! Demanding good reviews?!?!

I sure hope its a big misunderstanding or out of proportion because this
is so unetical. Perhaps ubisoft is like the king in disneys Robin Hood, caring
only for the money.

urfisch 02-27-10 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wraithe (Post 1282499)
Hopefully nobody expects more from ubi really... This was floating about on the AC2 forums on steam:
http://www.destructoid.com/ubisoft-d...--154456.phtml

My other UbiFail news:
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2...-pc-gaming.ars

this makes me speechless...although i often thought of an ubi strategy like that.

:nope:

Catfish 02-27-10 08:36 AM

Now this is really outrageous - not that it's not a perfect example for capitalism gone wild, but the audacity shown is indeed stunning.
As someone in the article said: Time for action.
Greetings,
Catfish

Rockin Robbins 02-27-10 08:52 AM

Capitalism is the only system that guarantees that the customer gets what he needs. It does this by ensuring the demise of companies which aren't worthy of receiving your money. As long as money is voluntarily transferred from customers to vendors, the customer is King.

The ultimate power is in your pocket. Surely there is something else to spend your money on other than Silent Hunter 5: Big Brother is Watching that will make you feel much better. My money is staying in my pocket on this one. I smell dead meat.

SH3 and SH4 rock anyway and I don't see any reason to downgrade.

Armistead 02-27-10 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins (Post 1282559)
Capitalism is the only system that guarantees that the customer gets what he needs. It does this by ensuring the demise of companies which aren't worthy of receiving your money. As long as money is voluntarily transferred from customers to vendors, the customer is King.

The ultimate power is in your pocket. Surely there is something else to spend your money on other than Silent Hunter 5: Big Brother is Watching that will make you feel much better. My money is staying in my pocket on this one. I smell dead meat.

SH3 and SH4 rock anyway and I don't see any reason to downgrade.

My guess is most that say they won't buy..will anyway and that's OK and Ubi will continue with DRM. I am one that won't...not for a long time and I believe you won't either. Eventually I'll find it in a bargain bin. I would still buy the game if it came out with poor reviews and the usual complaints and gladly wait for patches and mods. I would feel I owed that to support the game, but I can't deal with these other tactics.

Steeltrap 02-27-10 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armistead (Post 1282569)
My guess is most that say they won't buy..will anyway and that's OK and Ubi will continue with DRM. I am one that won't...not for a long time and I believe you won't either. Eventually I'll find it in a bargain bin. I would still buy the game if it came out with poor reviews and the usual complaints and gladly wait for patches and mods. I would feel I owed that to support the game, but I can't deal with these other tactics.

I have no intention of buying SH5, especially with DRM. While I have a stable ADSL 2+ connection, it's the principle to which I object.

I don't say it endlessly as I said it once or twice in appropriate threads. I'm happy to participate in discussions about aspects of the game, and am interested in hearing fellow subsimmers discuss playing, but I will not alter my attitude to that DRM on a single-player game.

As for 'purging' forums, CA/SEGA did the same thing in the Total War forum after Empire was shown to be a buggy piece of tripe. The funnuest part was moderators of the 'official' board getting slammed when they posted on the 'TW Center' forums over which they had no control.

Factor 02-27-10 12:18 PM

http://www.destructoid.com/ubisoft-d...--154456.phtml


This has to be illegal, or against better business bureau. Wow, just wow. :down:. Seriously considering not supporting Ubi anymore. Or gaming in general if this is the wave of the future. A-mazing!!!

Factor 02-27-10 12:26 PM

By the way, wonder if Ubi had the same "review policy", with the title, Brothers in Arms HH. It was getting 9.5 scores on some sites, and that game was a total letdown, after YEARS of delays.:down: That title by itself may have killed of the BIA series. Haven't heard anything of another sequel to think otherwise.

Wraithe 02-27-10 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Factor (Post 1282791)
By the way, wonder if Ubi had the same "review policy", with the title, Brothers in Arms HH. It was getting 9.5 scores on some sites, and that game was a total letdown, after YEARS of delays.:down: That title by itself may have killed of the BIA series. Haven't heard anything of another sequel to think otherwise.

Wouldn't be surprised some of the articles on this subject said ubisoft had been doing it for a long time and it's not just ubisoft doing it. This is why there are so many preorder exclusives nowadays so that they can sell the game before the true reviews start coming out.

malkuth74 02-27-10 12:51 PM

Well since SH5 is the last game from UBI I will ever buy because of the online activation.

I don't see UBI in the PC market much longer.

Unless they change.

Rockin Robbins 02-27-10 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Factor (Post 1282786)
http://www.destructoid.com/ubisoft-d...--154456.phtml


This has to be illegal, or against better business bureau. Wow, just wow. :down:. Seriously considering not supporting Ubi anymore. Or gaming in general if this is the wave of the future. A-mazing!!!

You read that stuff and only have to CONSIDER it? No wonder Sony and Apple are still in business. People don't recognize pure evil when they see it, or if they do they don't care.

I believe some sort of cloud computing for just about all applications is inevitable and good, so long as it is done with respect for customers. It is obvious now that Ubi sees us only as criminals, not as fans or friends or customers, but only as victims. This victimization is voluntary, however, and Ubi deserves to crater big time.

This is one concentration camp they can't force you to enter. But once in, you may find it difficult to leave. What you are willing to pay for, you will see more of and more extremely evil variations of. Consider carefully before you send them your money. You are paying for the end of your ownership of your computer. And the end of my right to own my computer too.

Contrary to the sign on the gate, work (or play) in this camp will not make you free.

danasan 02-27-10 01:47 PM

Erasing goes on there. Even at the moment. Even for linking to a critical test / newspaper article dealing with DRM and stuff like that. Even if there is no impolite comment from the poster. That is irritating me...

Burning books... yeah

concentration camp...

Onkel Neal 02-27-10 02:06 PM

Ok, we can start a Subsim German forum, and I will add a few moderators.

Please understand while Subsim has no problem with people being critical, we do want to keep discussion on an intellegent level. We do not want the forum to look like a YouTube comments page. If the discussions drop to that level, forum closed.

That also includes topic spamming: a guy posting the same comments in many threads, or a guy starting many threads on the same topic. Do not topic spam.:03:

No porn.
No really bad language.
No personal attacks, trolling, or flaming.
And no discussion of pirating games, cracks, where or how to get them.

If we're good on those few rules, I can move forward. Can someone translate into German for me? :salute:

msalama 02-27-10 02:17 PM

That does it. After reading through this lot I refuse to have _anything_ to do with UBI anymore. And that includes buying SH5.


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