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Adriatico 01-30-10 07:30 AM

You might think that 90% is exagerated figure... but it is not.

It might be astonishing if you look from London, Boston or Hamburg... but in "less organised" countries it is not surprising...

But the point is - only small portion of these "players" would buy original game anyway... Most of them try all the games for day or two, as it costs nothing...
With DRM you can loose 70-80% of present market... and gain some 20% new players...
:yep:

tonyj 01-30-10 07:31 AM

@mikhayl, so why's my local 'game' store pc section getting smaller and smaller then? or is 'steam' and similar platforms stealing their trade?

i guess the dev's won't send pm's anyone just incase they get posted on here.

HundertzehnGustav 01-30-10 07:32 AM

Quote:

there is no way that he could consider a reasonable expectation of privacy in this situation....period.
there you shot yerself in the foot.

You HAVE to respect the privacy. Just like you expect them to respect yours DRM and all.

The Enigma 01-30-10 07:36 AM

Are console games the future?
First: Console games are also being 'modded' by pirates.
Second: More and more console games need an internet connection too.:cry:

John W. Hamm 01-30-10 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HundertzehnGustav (Post 1252437)
there you shot yerself in the foot.

You HAVE to respect the privacy. Just like you expect them to respect yours DRM and all.


Umm no I disagree there too. If you do something in plain public view you have no reasonable expectation of privacy. And I will not use DRM, if I did I would not have a reasonable expectation of privacy.

theluckyone17 01-30-10 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by msalama (Post 1252428)
But hey, at least DftD is still being developed... :03:

I rarely see this mentioned, and it's something to remember. People seem to forget that a computer is a general purpose tool, and we can create content for it ourselves.

Yes, DftD is a huge undertaking. But look at the modding community here, and the huge undertaking it's been to create some of the super mods. Get enough people together with enough interest and talent, and they might just be able to pull DftD off.

Look at the state of Linux & Windows, for example. Building an O/S is complex, but it's been done and freely distributed.

I've said it before, I'll say it again: If Ubisoft persists with OSP and I find it onerous, I will not purchase SH5. I will not spend my time with SH3 (I hate that fatigue model, I really do...). I will spend my time working on DftD, doing all that I can do to make it better. Seein' as it's GPL/CC licensed and freely distributed, I'd love to see what Ubisoft will do to compete with it in the future. I can only see it chasing them out of the subsim market, or force them to concentrate on quality and content.

TDK1044 01-30-10 07:39 AM

It's a bit like 'off the record'. Unless you get permission in the PM to include all or part of the PM in a public forum, it should remain private.

Mikhayl 01-30-10 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonyj (Post 1252436)
@mikhayl, so why's my local 'game' store pc section getting smaller and smaller then? or is 'steam' and similar platforms stealing their trade?

i guess the dev's won't send pm's anyone just incase they get posted on here.

I don't know, it's been ages since I went to an actual game store, I make all my purchases from Amazon, Ebay (used) or Game.co.uk, so yep it's a possibility.

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Unrelated, but I'm curious about the sales figure for the SH 4 U-boat add-on. I bought it together with SH4, first week of release, and there was no copy protection.

bigboywooly 01-30-10 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikhayl (Post 1252445)
I don't know, it's been ages since I went to an actual game store, I make all my purchases from Amazon, Ebay (used) or Game.co.uk, so yep it's a possibility.

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Unrelated, but I'm curious about the sales figure for the SH 4 U-boat add-on. I bought it together with SH4, first week of release, and there was no copy protection.

Thats because one of the patches for SH4 removed the copy protection

John W. Hamm 01-30-10 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HundertzehnGustav (Post 1252437)
there you shot yerself in the foot.

You HAVE to respect the privacy. Just like you expect them to respect yours DRM and all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TDK1044 (Post 1252444)
It's a bit like 'off the record'. Unless you get permission in the PM to include all or part of the PM in a public forum, it should remain private.


For the last time you should quit assuming where it came from...What the hell? one person say's "OHITHINKTHISCAMEFROMAPM!!!" and suddenly this is gospel??? LAY OFF!

Wintahs 01-30-10 07:46 AM

The developer is right. Seriously, how many times has your internet been out in the past 12 months? For me, 0. What's the problem?

TDK1044 01-30-10 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John W. Hamm (Post 1252449)
For the last time you should quit assuming where it came from...What the hell? one person say's "OHITHINKTHISCAMEFROMAPM!!!" and suddenly this is gospel??? LAY OFF!

:rotfl2:

HundertzehnGustav 01-30-10 07:47 AM

OH COME ON NOW!:damn:

PRIVATE message.
For your eyes only.
No matter whats inside keep it to yer fekkin self!, thats what it means.

Are you a thrustworthy person or WHAT?

Iranon 01-30-10 07:47 AM

Publishers of PC games don't have it easy in a number of ways. Piracy isn't the only problem:

Sufficiently complex games often reach their peak a long time after they hit the shelves.
Many require patching for a long time (and this isn't always a bad sign - with enough complexity and a playerbase willing to get into fine nuances many issues will crop up that you can't predict with a reasonable amount of playtesting).
Others will be impoved by the players themselves - sub sims are a typical example.

Provided you have something to amuse yourself with in the meantime - and I do because there are plenty of classics with so much replay value that they'll last me for decades, as well as creative freeware titles - it usually makes sense to wait until you can pick up a game from the discount bin anyway.

John W. Hamm 01-30-10 07:47 AM

:rotfl2:
Quote:

Originally Posted by TDK1044 (Post 1252451)
:rotfl2:



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