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AVGWarhawk 11-18-09 08:53 PM

Funny part is, the media is only reinforcing exactly what she has been protesting since the election.

Platapus 11-18-09 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1205555)
This is not remotely close to bowing to another leader. In this instance the person Obama is bowing to does not bow to anyone! WTH? Bowing to a person shows servitude. Dipping your ensign is done by both parties in your example. Mutual respect in this instance.

Your comment would be appropriate if my post was address the topic of bowing to heads of state. However my post was not in response to the issue of bowing to a head of state, it was in response to August's post on dipping the national flag, hence the use of the quote function quoting portions of August's post where he made a statement about dipping the national flag.

But thanks for sharing your opinion. :)

CaptainHaplo 11-18-09 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1205514)
A fool and his money are soon parted as there's a sucker born every minute

I finally agreed with something this guy said - he explained perfectly the "Elect Obama - and you will get change - in your pocket - and thats all you will have left....." situation that many fools have created by voting for a vapid salesman.

The facts are Palin is a person the normal American voter can relate to and understand. Want to make fun of her travel expenses? This is the governer who got rid of the private jet her predecessor had. Think that might have saved a few bucks that the taxpayers aren't on the hook for any longer? Oh, but some would rather look at the little negatives than the big positives - because the voting public has expressed firm disapproval over the direction the country is headed, and its easier to try and point out other's flaws, that accept your own.

Right now, the thing that has most liberals scared beyond belief is a Gingrich/Palin ticket. The architect of the 94 trouncing of the Democratic led house - changing the face of politics for well over a decade, teamed with a "popular" running mate - both espousing alternatives to bigger government, higher taxes and larger debts, as well as some basic comon sense - is the largest threat to liberals in power right now.

The people have seen what the liberals in power are trying to do, and the people have said NO. The power players even state that they hear the people - but it won't make a difference. That elitism doesn't sit well - and the people will speak again soon. Line liberals see that the base is now the extreme left, and are bailing on the party.

2010 will create a shift in Congress, and it will open the door for an even larger one away from right or left, but toward common sense and respect for individual freedoms in 2012.

Tribesman 11-18-09 09:28 PM

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The facts are Palin is a person the normal American voter can relate to and understand.
For every normal American that relates to her there is probably a normal American who thinks she is just plain dumb.

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This is the governer who got rid of the private jet her predecessor had. Think that might have saved a few bucks that the taxpayers aren't on the hook for any longer?
Well done, a perfect example of Palin telling silly lies.
Good move that they got rid of the plane, bad move to make false claims about the nature of the sale and turning a profit on it.

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The people have seen what the liberals in power are trying to do, and the people have said NO.
Have they? I thought both sides claimed victory in that last round of local elections. And didn't that GOP fella say those elections were meaningless as a gauge of public opinion.
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Line liberals see that the base is now the extreme left, and are bailing on the party
Do you mean the base is being abandoned for the extremes and people are bailing on the party just like the republican base did when the party was pandering to the extremes?

August 11-18-09 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1205553)
You sure about that?

Actually yes.

A. A foreign ship is not a foreign potentate. We might give the Queen of England a 21 gun salute but Old Glory will remain flying proudly from the masthead.

B. Technically a ships ensign is not it's nations flag, although it may look exactly the same, which is why dipping during the rendering of passing honors is the lone exception to the standard.

C. Line 3 of the regulations you posted clearly states that you don't dip the national colors ashore. This is because once it is removed from the mast of a ship it's no longer a ships ensign.

;)

mookiemookie 11-18-09 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1205444)
Seriously, since when does the President of the US bow to other world leaders?

Oh good grief, is this what you people are left to criticize? Is this seriously the most important issue that you on he right are worried about? No wonder no one takes you seriously anymore.

Did you get your panties in a bunch like this when Nixon bowed to Mao? Of course not:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kI0GMR2w59Y (0:18 seconds in)

I'd love to see how the Republican apologists spin this one.

August 11-18-09 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1205590)
I'd love to see how the Republican apologists spin this one.

Republicans wanted Nixon out as much as Democrats.

mookiemookie 11-18-09 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1205592)
Republicans wanted Nixon out as much as Democrats.

Yep, there it is...you've proved my point. Republicans back then wanted Nixon out because he bowed to Chairman Mao. That's just how it went down. :roll:

August 11-18-09 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1205595)
Yep, there it is...you've proved my point. Republicans back then wanted Nixon out because he bowed to Chairman Mao. That's just how it went down. :roll:

Yeah right because nobody, especially you, ever does anything for more than one single reason right?

AngusJS 11-18-09 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1205324)
She got her cavities searched during the Presidential campaign. I do not think they will find misnomers in this book. I think she will be someone who uncovers alot of graft.

The woman who spent $150,000 of RNC money on clothes in 2 months is going to uncover graft?

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Originally Posted by Sea Dragon
The fact is, Obama has made alot of idiotic missteps, and has said alot of stupid things himself.

Smart people sometimes slip and say stupid things. When you're a politician and your job is to talk constantly, it's inevitable. Palin is a stupid person, hence she says stupid things almost exclusively.

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Calling Palin stupid adds nothing to the national discourse.
Calling a spade a spade adds something to the national discourse. Refusing to do so because the truth hurts does not.

http://rawstory.com/2009/11/palin-evolution/

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Elsewhere in this volume, she talks about creationism, saying she “didn’t believe in the theory that human beings — thinking, loving beings — originated from fish that sprouted legs and crawled out of the sea” or from “monkeys who eventually swung down from the trees.”
She knows that every expert in this field would say she's dead wrong, and she doesn't care. Why bother to question your beliefs? Why bother to expand your knowledge?

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Originally Posted by Sea Demon
Very respectful without the disgraceful subservience displayed by Obama.

:roll: While a bit of a faux pas, I think the Japanese will take it as a sign of respect. It doesn't matter how we see it. Unless you think Bush puckering up for the Saudi king meant he had feelings for him.

Sea Demon 11-19-09 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by AngusJS (Post 1205612)
Smart people sometimes slip and say stupid things. When you're a politician and your job is to talk constantly, it's inevitable. Palin is a stupid person, hence she says stupid things almost exclusively.

Calling a spade a spade adds something to the national discourse. Refusing to do so because the truth hurts does not.

And you illustrate perfectly with this nonsense why the Independents are bailing out on the Democrats. :up: Well, this is one of many reasons.

Stealth Hunter 11-19-09 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by AngusJS (Post 1205612)


Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, Sen. John McCain's (R-AZ) vice presidential running mate, signals in her new book
Going Rogue that she doesn't believe in evolution, panning it as theory that human beings "originated from fish that sprouted legs and crawled out of the sea."

:har:

I think her lightbulb might have a busted socket...

Tribesman 11-19-09 05:38 AM

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I think her lightbulb might have a busted socket...
But did you know that exorcisms can get rid of witches and reduce crime.

Tribesman 11-19-09 06:02 AM

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Technically a ships ensign is not it's nations flag, although it may look exactly the same, which is why dipping during the rendering of passing honors is the lone exception to the standard.
Technically a ships ensign is its nations flag whether it looks the same or not, just as a naval jack is also its nations flag whether it looks the same or not.

CaptainHaplo 11-19-09 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter (Post 1205628)
....as theory that human beings "originated from fish that sprouted legs and crawled out of the sea."

:har:

I think her lightbulb might have a busted socket...

Stealth Hunter - while the comment is an oversimplification of evolution, the theory does state that mammillian life (of which Homo Sapien is a member of) did not originate on land, but initially was in water. It was from water dwelling creatures that mammals "evolved" from, and thus the statement is generally correct. The fact that it took a supposed number of hundreds of millions of years for the legs to "sprout" doesn't mitigate its accuracy.

Your either ignorant of that evolutionary theory, or want to find fault with someone because they were not scientifically detailed in a comment, or simply because you dislike them. Either way, your being petty in an attempt to marginalize and discredit someone. This is exactly the behavior many people point to when they say some people fear Palin.


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