We should make a distinction between realism and accuracy.

Accuracy is more about dive times, destroyer turning radii, plane
bombing accuracy etc.

Realism includes all of that, but also things like not being able to move
the camera beyond the first person and not having little red triangles.

For example, an abstract physics simulation can be accurate, but never
realistic. At least that is my reading of the terms.

That in mind, I think that SH3 is selective in it's realism and makes
genuine, and usually successful, attempts at accuracy.


Why would you want to rig for red unless it was night time?

Gee, and I watch the 452-minute version at least once every year or so, sometimes more often. I don't find that version boring at all. On the other hand, I have no illusions about it being real. As I said 'realism' is an art term for an accurate depiction of life, and in that regard Das Boot is probably as close as we're ever going to see in a popular movie. Their attention to technical detail in the reconstruction of the boat itself, as well as the moving platform technique of filming the interior scenes make it well worth owning and watching on a regular basis.

But it is only a movie, and shouldn't be used to judge accuracy in a different format, i.e. a game or sim.

Subsim <<<<<<<<<<<<o>>>>>>>>>>>>> WorldSim

Geuss which one we are getting :hmmm:

very well said :up:

AFAIR from the subsim meet, that's exactly what we saw, a torpedo launch button, just as it was in previous versions.

And IMHO that's good enough. :salute:

For more realism, use your imagination: just shout "Torpedo los" in front of your monitor, while pressing the small digit area of a high-res screen with your cordless laser-guided mouse....

For added realism one can follow the above given directions, without the mouse.

But what's this got to do with anything? It's a common misconception that U-boat crews came primarily from Northern Germany. The majority actually came from central Germany, principally Saxony.

Moreso the converse...

1. Because at dawn or dusk one doesn't want to be dictated to by a computer saying "just two more minutes" while you're setting up a shot.

2. Because regardless of the time red lights are not relevant at 200m when you are trying to avoid a destroyer.

3. Because red lights are only needed just prior to surfacing or reaching periscope depth, to allow the bridge crew or Kaleun's eyes time to adjust to the darkness.

4. Because later in the war bridge crew were issued goggles, thus largely eliminating the need to rig for red (remembering that crew sleeping areas were always darkened, regardless of time, except for battle stations).

I agree. We're all just living in the Matrix anyways. But some refuse to believe this, they rather swallow the blue pill...

Yes and dont use toothpaste, they use that to control us! :haha:

I'm glad you know about the 'toothpaste' too. :shifty:
Quick, tin foil hats on!

LoL - the N.W.O conspiricy theorys are just silly (the prospect of Western based one world govenment.)
Not only would 80% of the population of Middle East and south Asia rather die than submit to such a thing.
But can you ever imaging China or Russia just willingly giving up there soveriegnty? Not in million years! they'd fight us (the west) to the last man and rocket.
If Such a new world order ever does exist, there sure wont be many people left to live in it.
there wouldnt be much 'world' left, let alone 'order'. :haha:

Sorry, drifting OT here....

If it was realistic, we would be murdering non-virtual sailors instead of the binary ones. So I'm glad it's not.

If the life I have is the best the Matrix can give me, I'd rather just be dead.:dead:

You are masters of your own lives....you hold the strings.:03:

Unless of course your little more than a puppet :hmmm: