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Some what confused by mods in the SH4 section.

If its for v1.5 isn't that the U boat Add-on?

Just was wondering to keep the confusion down for reference.

i share your confusion but no its not


the forum titled ubm is only for the gwx team and there crossover issues getting 1.5 mods to work in the ATO side and combined with gwx

i dont know why they dont change the name of it because it is confusing.

once gwx is ready it will be full of action there.

when the download section started it took on the same names as the forum catagories, all you will find in ubm download section is ATO mods

Good point. Currently, the mods that are for the original game up to v1.4 are in the SH4 section.

Mods that work for the v1.5 U-boat Missions and SH4 Gold are in the SH4 UBM section.

If that ordering does not seem logical, shoot me a PM and help me fix it. Moving files is really easy.

thanks! :yep:

Neal

The Uboat forum is for all interested in the Uboats and the 1.5 add on. It was not specifically made for one modding individual or group. The creation was to assist those that have interest in Uboats and those with interest in the fleets have a separate forum in hopes to keep it organized. It is a bit confusing because 1.5 is an add on after 1.4 which was just the fleets. Natural progression to the 1.5 add on for the fleets was assumed and for the most part what has happened. Perhaps it should be simply entitled SH4 Uboats Mod Forums (1.5) or something to that affect.

No, no that's far too severe! It is a bit confusing though. The 1.5 section says 'Mods that pertain directly to the U-boat add-on for SH4' which implies if it's not for the German side, it shouldn't go there. That coupled with the fact that most uploads have been made to the 1.4 section, shows that most people think the 1.5 section is one for things to do specifically with U-boats only and the 1.4 section is for the 1.4 and 1.5 fleet boat mods.

It would be better if the 1.4 section was for mods for version 1.4 and the U-Boat add-on section was for mods for 1.5. Calling it U-Boat add-on section probably doesn't help either, as it emphasises the U-boat only mod idea that some people have. I have to say I myself got that impression too.

IMO the present goal of most modders is to create mods that work for both versions so its one mod download (or 2 if its a big mod) and you use whichever version fits your game.

it makes the most sense really because lots of talent has moved on to v1.5 and if forums were seperated not everyone would bother looking in the 1.4 section to see if anyone needed help or advice. thats what happened before and thats why the ubm v1.5 forum failed to take off. so many people had to stay in the regular sh4 forum for help and advice they just stayed there.

i understand the concept, it just doesnt work in practice. if you tried to seperate it now and found a way to make everyone move to the ubm forum you would see the regular sh4 forum slow to nothing and hardly get used. people will go to where the most help is and stay there and i dont see that changing. its not like sh3 and sh4 where the games are so different, sh4 v1.4 and sh4 ubm v1.5 are identicle in almost every way and only about 20% of the game files are different from one version to the other so that is why 2 out of 3 mods for v1.5 work in v1.4 as well without the modder even trying to do that.


now thats speaking of the forums.


as for the downloads section it gets tricky because at first glance you think its easy. put v1.5 mods here and put v1.4 mods there but so many mods are for both versions of the game in one download. you also have to decide do you want to take say 100 mods containing a version for 1.4 and 1.5 and ask modders to break them up and turn those 100 mods into 200?

IMO the downloads section would work best with 3 catagories:

- sh4 v1.4 and v1.5 mods

- sh4 v1.5 ATO mods

- sh4 v1.4 and v1.5 missions, tools, and misc.


as long as all mod titles are clearly labeled for the game version they are, there is no confusion.

Yeah, I see what you mean. :yep:

My original intent was:


SH4 UBM/Gold: Mods that work for the game with the 1.5 patch, regardless if they are U-boats, RFB mods, US subs, GW mods, ATO mods, etc.

SH4: does not have the 1.5 patch, mods that work for this game will not work for SH4 UBM/Gold with the 1.5 patch. If the mod will NOT work with 1.5, go here.

But, I think if we add "mods that work for this game will not work for SH4 UBM/Gold with the 1.5 patch. If the mod will NOT work with 1.5, go here" that could be a problem, because some mods with work with 1.5 and 1.4.



Maybe there should only be one SIlent Hunter 4 category:

Silent Hunter 4 (v1.4, UBM, Gold)

and let the user decide which mods fits his needs by reading the descriptions?


Continue this part of the discussion here please
Mods for SH4: Gold vs non-Gold, how do they stack up?


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Well, how complex is the mod bank software? IE, can you add a tick box selection for mods and only have one section for SH 4, so when you upload you put your file, your description and there would be a new section:

Compatibility

1.4 Tick
1.5 Tick
US Campaign Tick
Gemran Campaign Tick
TMO No Tick
GWX No Tick
RFB No Tick
GFO Tick

Then people could search on mods that work with their mod flavour. Generally modders know what their mod will work with, or if they havent tested it, will have a good idea and if they find out later it isn't, it can be easily changed.

Also, could we have a section for bug fixes, I put my eye patch in the gameplay section :DL.

I'll be transferring my Filefront SH3 and SH4 stuff to Subsim- not that my minimods are spectacular (they're anything but spectacular) but I would like to continue to share them.

File front is backup. It was an april fools joke those feaken bastards.. They restored my last file on FF.:nope:

So what if it was/is an Aprils fools joke.
Everyone by now should have figured out about alternatives to FF. :yeah:

They may have been trying to gauge interest in their site and how people would react to it closing.