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owner20071963 03-06-09 09:40 AM

Contrary to everyone here posting on which game is best
The Silent Hunter game is Originally based on German U-Boats
like it or not,
The Original Campaign is The Atlantic
not the Pacific,
The Atlantic Campaign is more challenging,
ever since Silent Hunter 2,
A great game never Forgotten,
Silent Hunter 3 GWX 3.0 Gold brings back that realism
to its best,
the GWX Team Will do what was done to SH3,
make SH4 more Realistic,
Lets enjoy SH3 GWX 3.0 Gold,
and await
Silent Hunter 4 GWX Wolves Of The Atlantic :arrgh!:

TDK1044 03-06-09 09:44 AM

To me, WWII submarine warfare is synonymous with the cat and mouse drama of the U Boats in the Atlantic. I don't wish to diminish in any way the role of the Fleet Boats in the Pacific, but when you are the Captain of a U boat in appalling weather conditions, and you are trying to set up for an attack on a convoy that you've been tracking for an hour or more, there's a sweaty reality and immersion about that that I never found inthe Fleet Boat game.

AVGWarhawk 03-06-09 09:57 AM

Quote:

Contrary to everyone here posting on which game is best
The Silent Hunter game is Originally based on German U-Boats
like it or not,
The Original Campaign is The Atlantic
not the Pacific,
What does this have to do with the price of eggs in China?

owner20071963 03-06-09 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk
Quote:

Contrary to everyone here posting on which game is best
The Silent Hunter game is Originally based on German U-Boats
like it or not,
The Original Campaign is The Atlantic
not the Pacific,
What does this have to do with the price of eggs in China?

Easter Eggs :arrgh!:

AVGWarhawk 03-06-09 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by greyrider
japan by far was the tougher enemy, therefore i respect them more, germany didnt need to get nuked to end the war there, japan did.

Oh my. You could not be further from the truth.. Germany was the enemy of the allied that was the most feared, thus- that is why there was more effort to defete them. Japn was not even NEAR the threat of Germany...

Germay was Taking on many powerful nations, Japan's only real military threat was the 1/2 the USA, the other 3rd world nations they walked into doesn't count for much.
Germany however after Defeting large powerful nations such as France, still had Great super Powers to deal with up front.. Great Britain, Russia and USA. along with Canada and others. No nations on earth then and now could take on 3 super powers and win, I think the German people did well for having a psyco leader get them into a mess..
As far as having to be nuked to surrender?? Well. at least Germany had the smarts or power "NOT TO GET NUKED".. I mean it was soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Easy for the USA to fly in and just let it drop. something you could not do so easy on Germany.
Japan was so far behnd n technoligy, they could not keep up.. they lacked high altitude performance aircraft... heck they was about the only nation on earth who never had a 400 mph aircraft.. The Ki-84 was the closest and would do 386 mph, only after the war the US pilots took a ki84 turned up the supercharger and got 427 mph.. yet most aircrat would do better with turned up superchargers.
But you get the idea.. the Germans had many 400 plus mph aircraft.. BF109 K = 452 mph, FW190a8 = 408 mph.. Ta-152H = 472 mph, and lets talk about jets... Me-262 = 540 mph, at least Britain and USA had jets..
Germany had to send the Japs a jet to copy and they never got it right.

Japan had to deal with 1/2 of the USA.. just imagine if they had to deal with the 1/2 that was fighting Germany, the massive power of Great Britain (they had dinky numbers in the pacific), and mother Russia..all comming down on them at once..
Japan would had been defeted in 1942 if they had to face what Germany did.

Germany had much more advanced weapons.. Guided Rockets, better tanks, combat jets.. and the list goes on.. although I like the longlance Torpedo Japan had, and the Yamoto class battleships.. Germany was like Space allians in technoligy compared to Japan in the stone age.. it was the Japanese willingness to Kamakazi to death that helped prolong the battle a few months.

And yes the Type 21, would have been a Threat.. look up the two combat patrols that the type 21.. one was in the middle of a convoy, and the other Type21 I believe was in a Sub hunter task group and being hunted.. both went to perascope depth in the middle, lowered scope and went home...when the message came to go home... The Type 21 was just PLAYING with the Allies.. yet the allies could not either detest it, or catch it...
Any other sub and they would either NEVER gotten close or probabaly would have been sunk FAST..
the extra underwater speed, more quiet operation, and more battery life ment the world of a differance.. Although nothing is invincable.. used right, there was no answer to it.. or the two on combat patrols would have been sunk.
I think what he meant here was not tougher weapon wise....tougher mentally. Suicide planes, suicide mini-subs, Bonzi attacks. Willing and ready to die(take ones life in the process)for an Emperor that was seen as a God.

Torplexed 03-06-09 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by owner20071963
Contrary to everyone here posting on which game is best
The Silent Hunter game is Originally based on German U-Boats
like it or not,
The Original Campaign is The Atlantic
not the Pacific,

Actually, the original Silent Hunter I was set in the Pacific. That doesn't look like a U-Boat on the box art.

http://images.marketworks.com/hi/5/4...unter-bx-f.jpg

AVGWarhawk 03-06-09 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by owner20071963
Quote:

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk
Quote:

Contrary to everyone here posting on which game is best
The Silent Hunter game is Originally based on German U-Boats
like it or not,
The Original Campaign is The Atlantic
not the Pacific,
What does this have to do with the price of eggs in China?

Easter Eggs :arrgh!:

I guess Owner20071963. Is the reasoning here that SH 2 was the Uboats first so it make it better? :hmmm: It has no bearing at all. Some just like the dark feeling playing the u-boats. Others like the fleets and torpedoing their way to victory. Each are cool in their own way. -shrug-

TDK1044 03-06-09 10:26 AM

That's the great thing about Silent Hunter 4. Just look at how modable Dan and his team made this game if you have 1.5. People can effortlessly move between a Fleet Boat and a U Boat career and apply superb mods to both games. How awesome is that! :)

owner20071963 03-06-09 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Torplexed
Quote:

Originally Posted by owner20071963
Contrary to everyone here posting on which game is best
The Silent Hunter game is Originally based on German U-Boats
like it or not,
The Original Campaign is The Atlantic
not the Pacific,

Actually, the original Silent Hunter I was set in the Pacific. That doesn't look like a U-Boat on the box art.

http://images.marketworks.com/hi/5/4...unter-bx-f.jpg

You Are wrong
Here is the Original Cover,
It is A German U-Boat,
and Silent Hunter was based on the Atlantic Campaign.
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/6...teriicover.jpg
By owner20071963 at 2009-03-06




Schroeder 03-06-09 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk
I think what he meant here was not tougher weapon wise....tougher mentally. Suicide planes, suicide mini-subs, Bonzi attacks. Willing and ready to die(take ones life in the process)for an Emperor that was seen as a God.

Actually we had the same. There was a squadron of "Rammjäger" ram fighters that crashed themselves into enemy bombers. There were kamikaze attacks on bridges in the east too.


But I don't see anything positive in that. To me it is just a plain stupid waste of lifes.

AVGWarhawk 03-06-09 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder
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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk
I think what he meant here was not tougher weapon wise....tougher mentally. Suicide planes, suicide mini-subs, Bonzi attacks. Willing and ready to die(take ones life in the process)for an Emperor that was seen as a God.

Actually we had the same. There was a squadron of "Rammjäger" ram fighters that crashed themselves into enemy bombers. There were kamikaze attacks on bridges in the east too.


But I don't see anything positive in that. To me it is just a plain stupid waste of lifes.

For Japan, it was last best effort to protect mainland Japan.

Fincuan 03-06-09 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by owner20071963
You Are wrong
Here is the Original Cover,
It is A German U-Boat,
and Silent Hunter was based on the Atlantic Campaign.]

That is a Silent Hunter II box cover you posted, a game that was indeed placed in the Atlantic theater. Torplexed posted a Silent Hunter box cover, and that is a fleet boat in it because it happens in the Pacific.

What this has to do with the original question of jumping from SH3 to 4 beats me...

AVGWarhawk 03-06-09 10:31 AM

The first was fleets but again, what does this have to do with "which game is better"? The one you like is better.

Torplexed 03-06-09 10:33 AM

Maybe it's because it's been so long but I think people forget the original Silent Hunter came out in 1996 and was set in the Pacific. Silent Hunter 2 came out in 2001 and was set in the Atlantic. Followed by SH3 in 2005 and SH4 in 2007.

AVGWarhawk 03-06-09 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Torplexed
Maybe it's because it's been so long but I think people forget the original Silent Hunter came out in 1996 and was set in the Pacific. Silent Hunter 2 came out in 2001 and was set in the Atlantic.


I still have SH2. Never got past the second patrol...game would crash:88)


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