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Max2147 04-09-09 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by tater (Post 1065334)
At combinedfleet.com, the TROM for Yamato lists 6 certain hits, and say that "several" of the final VTs (6 TBFs) made hits.

That puts the lower limit at 7, the upper limit at 12. That's in addition to a large number of bombs (AP and GP).

Musashi, after 11 torpedo hits (and many bomb hits and near-misses):


Combined fleet then goes on to list the 11 hits of the last attack, including where they hit.

So according to combinedfleet, that's 22 torpedo hits on Musashi.

tater

But the third Yamato (Shinano) went down with just 4 submarine torpedo hits.

Torplexed 04-09-09 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Max2147 (Post 1080809)
But the third Yamato (Shinano) went down with just 4 submarine torpedo hits.

The Shinano's demise had a lot to do with stupidity and circumstance. Not all of her watertight doors had been installed. The ship's compartments hadn't been tested for water tightness and most of her crew was untrained with a good percentage of them being civilian dockyard workers still helping fit the vessel out. Plus, Capt Abe insisting on proceeding at speed despite the torpedo hits judging the damage inconsequential. Rather than face the embarrassment he went down with the ship. Fearing the impact on national morale, the sinking was concealed from the Japanese people until after the war.

MonTana_Prussian 04-09-09 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Torplexed (Post 1081082)
The Shinano's demise had a lot to do with stupidity and circumstance. Not all of her watertight doors had been installed. The ship's compartments hadn't been tested for water tightness and most of her crew was untrained with a good percentage of them being civilian dockyard workers still helping fit the vessel out. Plus, Capt Abe insisting on proceeding at speed despite the torpedo hits judging the damage inconsequential. Rather than face the embarrassment he went down with the ship. Fearing the impact on national morale, the sinking was concealed from the Japanese people until after the war.


All true,and the fact that she was completed as a CV,not a BB. Different subdivision,avgas storages tanks probably empty.

Max2147 04-10-09 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Torplexed (Post 1081082)
The Shinano's demise had a lot to do with stupidity and circumstance. Not all of her watertight doors had been installed. The ship's compartments hadn't been tested for water tightness and most of her crew was untrained with a good percentage of them being civilian dockyard workers still helping fit the vessel out. Plus, Capt Abe insisting on proceeding at speed despite the torpedo hits judging the damage inconsequential. Rather than face the embarrassment he went down with the ship. Fearing the impact on national morale, the sinking was concealed from the Japanese people until after the war.

There was also a weak spot in the Yamato class armor where the torpedo blister met the rest of the hull. The Archerfish's torpedoes all hit this spot.


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