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UnderseaLcpl 02-18-09 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Fish

I am a liberal. :smug:

What kind of liberal?




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Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter
I'm a Liberal and a Social-Democrat.

Tell me what you believe, and I'll bet that you prove yourself to be a centralist:DL

Aramike 02-18-09 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Zachstar
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Originally Posted by Fish
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Originally Posted by Biggles
I am pretty much a socialist, I

I am a liberal. :smug:

I'm a progressive which is right of liberal.

LOL!!! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

"Progressive" is nothing more than a code name for liberals who don't like the term "liberal".

The very fact that the term exists implies an inherent deception involved with liberalism...

Zachstar 02-18-09 04:11 AM

Then they are liberal progressives (Which I guess is left of progressive and right of liberal whatever that means)

Progressivism (accepting progress without running for social programs at every turn) wrecked the GOP's 2008 chances and is decimating its 2010 chances. Because America has grown from the old days where "If you are not right you are a commie!" And thankfully away (Slightly) from loon deep left ideas.

A deep liberal will say "Shut down all nuc plants NOW!"

A progressive will say "Fund fusion research so we can economically kill fission plants!"

The faster the right learns of this and supports its own form of progressivism the faster it can come back if it all.

Enigma 02-18-09 04:22 AM

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"Progressive" is nothing more than a code name for liberals who don't like the term "liberal".

The very fact that the term exists implies an inherent deception involved with liberalism...
I'm not sure I've ever heard such horse **** in my life....

But, alas, on is not surprised considering the source. :yep:

Platapus 02-18-09 07:12 AM

From the movie: Casablanca

Major Heinrich Strasser (Conrad Veidt)

What is your nationality?


Rick Blaine (Humphrey Bogart)

I'm a drunkard.

Captain Louis Renault (Claude Rains)

That makes Rick a citizen of the world.
:yeah:

UnderseaLcpl 02-18-09 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Zachstar
Then they are liberal progressives (Which I guess is left of progressive and right of liberal whatever that means)

Progressivism (accepting progress without running for social programs at every turn) wrecked the GOP's 2008 chances and is decimating its 2010 chances. Because America has grown from the old days where "If you are not right you are a commie!" And thankfully away (Slightly) from loon deep left ideas.

A deep liberal will say "Shut down all nuc plants NOW!"

A progressive will say "Fund fusion research so we can economically kill fission plants!"

And then a conservative would say "You're still both just liberals. You may have different ideas on energy policy, but you both imply that the state should control it and worse, you think you're qualified to make those decisions. That makes you liberals, no matter what you call yourselves."

You couldn't have picked a better qay to prove what Aramike said;
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"Progressive" is nothing more than a code name for liberals who don't like the term "liberal".

The very fact that the term exists implies an inherent deception involved with liberalism...
:rotfl: "Progressives"...... I love when people tell me that they are progressives or progressive liberals. As opposed to what? That other huge voting block that doesn't want progress?
I think the term itself is hilarious. I guess since liberal policies work so rarely, they had to put the word "progress" in the term so people wouldn't forget what they were all about.
The term is just the hammer and sickle on the red flag of liberalism.

Hey, conservatives, here's a thought; let's start a new political philosophy and call it "good-idea" conservatism. Y'know to distinguish it from regular conservatism.
Our policy will be to only have good ideas:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Tribesman 02-18-09 11:18 AM

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As opposed to what? That other huge voting block that doesn't want progress?
Thats the definition of conservative isn't it , the ones that don't want progress , maintaining the staus quo .
Or the real conservatives that want to go backwards with their status quo ante .

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I think the term itself is hilarious. I guess since liberal policies work so rarely, they had to put the word "progress" in the term so people wouldn't forget what they were all about.
So you are saying that the American revolution didn't work because the liberal policy of government of the people by the people was a silly idea and the conservative status quo of monarchy would have been better ?
I would love to hear you views on slavery , those damn liberal abolishionists with their silly views on individual rights and equality eh :rotfl:

Aramike 02-18-09 11:33 AM

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I'm not sure I've ever heard such horse **** in my life....
Sure you have. Just read any one of your posts full of empty, sheep-like loyalty spurned on by simplistic ad hominem attacks.

Aramike 02-18-09 11:35 AM

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Hey, conservatives, here's a thought; let's start a new political philosophy and call it "good-idea" conservatism. Y'know to distinguish it from regular conservatism.
Our policy will be to only have good ideas
Good idea! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Aramike 02-18-09 11:38 AM

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So you are saying that the American revolution didn't work because the liberal policy of government of the people by the people was a silly idea and the conservative status quo of monarchy would have been better ?
I would love to hear you views on slavery , those damn liberal abolishionists with their silly views on individual rights and equality eh
Why do liberals constantly feel the need to go back 100s of years in order to find an event to fit the literal definition of "liberalism" in order to justify their beliefs?

Dude, modern American liberalism is in NO WAY related to every liberal idea and action throughout history.

UnderseaLcpl 02-18-09 11:56 AM

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Thats the definition of conservative isn't it , the ones that don't want progress , maintaining the staus quo .
Or the real conservatives that want to go backwards with their status quo ante .

Sure, if you relied strictly on a dictionary for your political alignment. Conservatives generally want less government, and more individual freedom. More personal accountability and initiative, less state control. We don't want to go backwards per se, other than reversing a lot of liberal policy. We just don't think that the state knows the best way forward, and judging by the evidence I'd say it doesn't. Or, based on the strict limitations put on the Federal goverment by the constitution, limitations that liberals are always trying to find a way around, I'd say the founders kind of thought the same way.



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So you are saying that the American revolution didn't work because the liberal policy of government of the people by the people was a silly idea and the conservative status quo of monarchy would have been better ?
I guess I would be saying that if this was the 18th century.
Of course, in that case I'd probably have a different opinion.


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I would love to hear you views on slavery , those damn liberal abolishionists with their silly views on individual rights and equality eh :rotfl:
Ah ah ah...... You don't get to wave the civil rights flag in my face. I'm a Libertarian, things like gay marriage and abortion, et. al don't bother me.
:DL
If this were the mid-1800's, I'd probably be an abolitionist.
Not that it matters, because it is completely irrelevant to the modern context of the terms liberal and conservative in America. If you want an accurate term that can be used at any time period to describe what is called a liberal today, "Centralist" might work better. Or Socialist. :03:

Enigma 02-18-09 01:53 PM

Whats with all the extremist righties around here wanting to tell everyone else what their political affiliation is? :har:

Ya'll crack me up....

August 02-18-09 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Enigma
Whats with all the extremist righties around here wanting to tell everyone else what their political affiliation is? :har:

Ya'll crack me up....

Yeah everyone is an "extremist righty", except for you "progressives". Is that right?

Enigma 02-18-09 02:13 PM

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Yeah everyone is an "extremist righty", except for you "progressives". Is that right?
Wow, that went right over your head, didn't it....:haha:

I was making a joke there, bub. Easy on up now....

August 02-18-09 02:53 PM

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Yeah everyone is an "extremist righty", except for you "progressives". Is that right?
Wow, that went right over your head, didn't it....:haha:

I was making a joke there, bub. Easy on up now....

You call that a joke? You have absolutely no future in comedy. :yep:


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