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Wolfehunter

06-25-08 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

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Originally Posted by Happy Times

No, i ment that Guantanamo being US base has to uphold the US constitution in its practises.

True, for its US Citizen detainees and it's soldiers. Foreigners need not apply.

-S

I believe its about the US Citizens being detained and not Foreigners. They have international law for the foreigners but I could be wrong.:hmm:

Zachstar

06-26-08 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

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Originally Posted by Happy Times

No, i ment that Guantanamo being US base has to uphold the US constitution in its practises.

True, for its US Citizen detainees and it's soldiers. Foreigners need not apply.

-S

The supreme court ruled otherwise. What the supreme court says goes. Unless congress tries something else of course.

You can have an opinion on the matter but you need to stop making it sound like fact.

nikimcbee

06-27-08 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by August

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Originally Posted by Tchocky

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Originally Posted by Matthew Yglesias

On the advice of some readers I picked up Jack Weatherford's Genghis Khan and the Making of the Modern World where I learned that Genghis Khan banned torture in his empire.
So, yes, under George W. Bush the United States of America is regressing to an understanding of humane treatment of people that doesn't reflect the enlightened views of Genghis Khan. That's your feel-good thought of the day.

So do you and this Matthew guy think we ought to adopt old Khans hostile city pacification program where if they resisted his demand for surrender the city is sacked, razed and it's population put to the sword, or do you figure that what we call torture these days Ghengis would call just kidding around? :p

now there's an idea:hmm:

mookiemookie

06-27-08 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by The WosMan

Look the fact of the matter is writ of Habeas corpus (Supension Clause Article 1 Sec 9) of the Constitution is specifically enumerated to be between the American people and the federal government for the purpose of protecting Americans from random arrest and imprisonment.

Note that the Constitution does not GRANT the right of Habeas Corpus, it only states the situations in which it can be taken away. This is important, as the right of Habeas Corpus is a right that ALL people automatically have and don't need to be specifically granted, and have had since the days of the Magna Carta.

Stealth Hunter

06-27-08 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Or in Bush's interpretation: the constitution is nothing else but an UFO. Questionable that it even exists.

He and Cheney demand crowns be placed upon their royal heads.:roll:

All hail the King Bush and Vice-King Cheney.:rotfl: :roll:

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