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Yahoshua 06-15-08 02:02 PM

From what I've seen, it is a well deserved reputation.

My peers have an innate lack of the ability to read posted signs and follow clearly spoken and demonstrated directions (the concept of hose connections seem to really screw them up for some reason).

And worse still, is the fact that they are now coming into adulthood and will have to take on adult responsibilities. So how well do they keep up on current political events? Laws that congress plans to pass etc.?

Try this as an experiment. Just doing a hand-vote in your classroom, ask your students if "U.N. law should supersede U.S. Law" (the first answer is the accepted one, no changes allowed and it's strictly a yes or no answer). The results I got from asking peers in my age group who walked into our shop was not inspiring at all.

These issues and others will be ones that my peers and I will have to make a decision on. Do you really trust my generation to take control of the reigns now? I don't.

Kapitan 06-15-08 04:33 PM

I got another kick in the teeth with the navy again failed the medicle this time wieght yet again have to wait a while more (was in for submarines)

at the moment i drive busses and that in itself may be advantagous because if i do the 22 year service not only do i get a pension from the navy but i also still have a HGV PCV and PSV licence so i can still go back to a well paid job at the end of it.

Platapus 06-15-08 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Yahoshua

ask your students if "U.N. law should supersede U.S. Law" (the first answer is the accepted one, no changes allowed and it's strictly a yes or no answer).

Well I am about half way to getting my doctorate in International policy following up on a 25+ year career in political analysis and I could not answer that question yes or no.

The question is too complex for a dichotomous answer.

Clearly UN law (which is a confusing term in itself) does not apply to domestic issues. So no the UN can't dictate how a sovereign nation handles internal issues such as rebellion or dissent.

If a nation is operating under the auspices of the UN via Chapter seven of the charter, than yes, the UN would have jurisdiction.

If a sovereign nation is responding in self-defense, then the answer is maybe as it depends on whether the UNSC is already addressing the issue or not.

Lawyers and policy analysts work for years trying to answer your question. I think it would be patently unfair to ask that of students and judge them by their answer.

PeriscopeDepth 06-15-08 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Yahoshua
From what I've seen, it is a well deserved reputation.

My peers have an innate lack of the ability to read posted signs and follow clearly spoken and demonstrated directions (the concept of hose connections seem to really screw them up for some reason).

And worse still, is the fact that they are now coming into adulthood and will have to take on adult responsibilities. So how well do they keep up on current political events? Laws that congress plans to pass etc.?

Try this as an experiment. Just doing a hand-vote in your classroom, ask your students if "U.N. law should supersede U.S. Law" (the first answer is the accepted one, no changes allowed and it's strictly a yes or no answer). The results I got from asking peers in my age group who walked into our shop was not inspiring at all.

These issues and others will be ones that my peers and I will have to make a decision on. Do you really trust my generation to take control of the reigns now? I don't.

I have to agree with Takeda. You are generalizing, our generation is no better or worse than in the past. Sounds like you just don't like your peers.

PD

Yahoshua 06-15-08 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Clearly UN law (which is a confusing term in itself) does not apply to domestic issues. So no the UN can't dictate how a sovereign nation handles internal issues.....

This was the question I was asking people. Whether they think the U.N. should be allowed to dictate U.S. domestic policy and abrogate U.S. sovereignty and the U.S. constitution.

2/3 of the people I asked (peers in my age group) didn't give a damn about the issue and thought it wouldn't make any difference if it were the U.S. constitution or the U.N. that held sovereignty.

That was just mind-boggling to me seeing that people are this ignorant of their rights.


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Originally Posted by Periscope Depth
Sounds like you just don't like your peers.

No, I'm not impressed at all with my peers. I was foolish enough to expect them to be aware of their surroundings and how it affects them. But no, they're more fascinated with American Idol and their belly-button lint than they are concerned about deciding what kind of future they want for themselves.

OneToughHerring 06-16-08 01:22 AM

I'm sort of in between work right now having last worked as a translator/'textproducer'/proofreader etc. in a freelance - type position for some time. I'm broadening my horizons and looking for work abroad, my country is suffering from a more or less permanent state of high unemployment, especially for young academic folks. Also completing my second degree so staying busy overall.

Btw, interesting to see how there are both academic and more 'down to earth' people here on this board, good to see that different types of people are brought together due to a common interest.
:up:

Takeda Shingen 06-16-08 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Yahoshua
Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus

Clearly UN law (which is a confusing term in itself) does not apply to domestic issues. So no the UN can't dictate how a sovereign nation handles internal issues.....

This was the question I was asking people. Whether they think the U.N. should be allowed to dictate U.S. domestic policy and abrogate U.S. sovereignty and the U.S. constitution.

2/3 of the people I asked (peers in my age group) didn't give a damn about the issue and thought it wouldn't make any difference if it were the U.S. constitution or the U.N. that held sovereignty.

That was just mind-boggling to me seeing that people are this ignorant of their rights.

I'd be willing to wager that this statistic would also apply to the population at large regarding this issue. I'd also say that it would be a safe bet that if you were to translate the observation to issue 'X' during year Y' and interviewing generation 'Z', you would find similar results. Ignorance is a human problem, not a generational one. I know plenty of old, ignorant people.

Takeda Shingen 06-16-08 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring
Btw, interesting to see how there are both academic and more 'down to earth' people here on this board, good to see that different types of people are brought together due to a common interest.
:up:

Yes, that SubSim has always been a cross-section of humanity was something that I always felt rather appealing as well.

Sailor Steve 06-16-08 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Yahoshua
No, I'm not impressed at all with my peers. I was foolish enough to expect them to be aware of their surroundings and how it affects them. But no, they're more fascinated with American Idol and their belly-button lint than they are concerned about deciding what kind of future they want for themselves.

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen
Ignorance is a human problem, not a generational one. I know plenty of old, ignorant people.

I couldn't agree more. When I was young the big complaint was about all the people who couldn't find Vietnam on a map. Now that I'm much older I have friends whose main concern is, as Yahoshua pointed out, American Idol (I'm not going to enquire about their belly-button lint).

Then again, I regularly converse with one who is an unrepentant communist. He thinks I'm ignorant because he can never get me to agree with his ideas. It may not be a perfect world, but it is an interesting one.

Marcantilan 06-16-08 02:53 PM

Iīm a lawyer for living.

In fact, here is my profile at my (well, itīs not mine just work there) law firmīs web page.

http://zeus.servidoraweb.net/~juanbe...ros&LA=9&EX=14

Kapitan 06-16-08 03:33 PM

I would just like to inform each and every comrade here present all information posted here will be retained for further more detailed inspection along with the bio thread and the mug shot thread.

Please ensure you have your party cards ready.

Yahoshua 06-16-08 07:27 PM

you mean.... EVRYTHING??


http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k8.../theunseen.jpg

Stealth Hunter 06-16-08 08:01 PM

Retired.

PeriscopeDepth 06-19-08 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by PeriscopeDepth
Funny you should mention that. I am not crazy about my current job, and in fact have a preliminary interview with a rather well known Internet company for a sales position in about two hours. Hope I get it, would give me a decent bump in pay and awesome benefits. :yep:

PD

I know nobody cares, but I have to brag. Got it! :smug:

PD

Platapus 06-19-08 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by PeriscopeDepth
I know nobody cares, but I have to brag. Got it! :smug:

PD


well you are probably right but conga rats anyway :up:


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