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Von Tonner 05-01-08 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by NEON DEON
In the case of the race being declared over :nope: by the republicans, I find that to be highly subjective. :D

Well maybe not.

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dl...S0502/80501001

And the SD just keep on coming aboard for Obama. He is cutting into her SD on a daily basis - the ONLY lead she has.

TDK1044 05-01-08 09:38 AM

Only the Rev Wright can defeat Obama. If people treat that fool with the contempt he deserves then the race will be over after the NC and Indiana primaries. If, however, his negative rhetoric has resonated with enough people, then Hillary could do well in NC, although probably not win it, and she could win Indiana. In that event, the race goes on. Obama will ultimately win, but it will have gone on way too long and John McCain will be the next president.

Tchocky 05-01-08 09:50 AM

The idea that the current media focus on the Democratic candidates is helping McCain seems to make sense.
Does that imply that more attention on McCain will be bad for him?

August 05-01-08 11:00 AM

Regardless of which one wins the nomination I predict a fair amount of GoP attacks will start with the words "But members of your own party claim that..."

Tchocky 05-01-08 11:04 AM

I think there are enough anti-McCain Republicans to make that kind of strategy self-defeating :)

August 05-01-08 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky
I think there are enough anti-McCain Republicans to make that kind of strategy self-defeating :)

Maybe, but what would they say that is worse than some of the stuff being tossed back and forth between the two dem candidate camps?

mookiemookie 05-01-08 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSatyr
And the Obama campaign wishes it was over. Even when He outspent Hillary by a huge margin in PA he still lost.

He is ahead by 140 delegates. Even more than before PA

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...or else he just proved he is fiscally irresponsible.
His campaign has less debt than Hillary and McCains.

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The Obama people in various forums keep whining at Hillary to quit the race...because they fear their man is going to make more blunders and end up talking himself out of the democratic nomination.
She cannot mathematically win given the number of delegates remaining. Her ego won't let her quit.

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Obama is nothing but an empty suit trying to get elected by using smoke and mirrors.
I suppose an 18.4 cent gas tax holiday is the answer for our ills? Guess what? Artificially lower prices will only stimulate demand of a limited resource which will *gasp* make prices higher!

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Obama has also shown a lack of judgement in those he calls friends. Rezko,Wright,Avery...that is why I'd never vote for that man. If he has such poor judgement in picking his friends than how can we trust his judgement when dealing with foreign leaders?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five

And...

"I've always respected Karl Rove as one of the smart great political minds I think in American politics" - McCain

And...

"Two of Sen. John McCain's top advisers and fundraisers are among several Republican and Democratic presidential campaign officials whose lobbying firms have been paid more than $15 million by foreign governments since 2005." - http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/...8489/-1/RSS_FP

TDK1044 05-01-08 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by NEON DEON
The SD picked up was the Governor of North Carolina.

Survey USA poll shows Obama ahead by only five in NC.

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/Poll...3-75c8b25b3435

Clinton now ahead by 9 in Indiana.

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/Poll...a87585&q=45558


In the case of the race being declared over :nope: by the republicans, I find that to be highly subjective. :D


She could win all of the remaining States, and with the pr system she'd still be over 100 delegates behind Obama at the end of the process.

Today, under the CNN headline 'Major Clinton backer switches to Obama' another senior Democrat and former Clinton supporter switches to Obama. For every one SD she gets, he gets five or six. She needs those figures to be the other way around and it simply isn't going to happen.

As I said in my other post, if the Rev Wright fiasco has resonated to the point where Clinton wins in NC and Indiana, then we'll stumble on to the Denver convention where Obama will win by a slimmer margin.

TDK1044 05-01-08 11:40 AM

By the way, NEON, I admire your loyalty if not your logic. Nothing personal here...we just have very different views. :D

Sea Demon 05-01-08 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by August
Regardless of which one wins the nomination I predict a fair amount of GoP attacks will start with the words "But members of your own party claim that..."

It doesn't help that the Republican nominee (McCain) has said some complimentary things about both Dems, where none of it was warranted. Of course consider the source. McCain is a loser himself and doesn't wish for the drawer to be opened on him. All three of these candidates are the bottom of the barrel with McCain only being a little better than the other two.

TDK1044 05-01-08 01:16 PM

Hillary has nobody to blame but herself. At the start of this process, her campaign manager was busy telling anyone who would listen that she'd have it won by 'Super Tuesday'. They made a tactical decision not to caucus, which was a big mistake, and then they realized that they were up against a candidate who offered little substance, but who is very charismatic, eloquent and smart. Perfect for caucussing.

Obama played to his strengths and exploited her tactical errors. The end result is where we're at now. She can't win it, and he can only lose it if the 'Wright' affair loses it for him by frightening some SDs over to her side.

So far, there's little sign of that as the SDs continue to endose him and very few have chosen to endorse her, even in the light of her PA victory. The results of the NC and Indiana primaries will define how quickly this will be over.

NEON DEON 05-01-08 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TDK1044
By the way, NEON, I admire your loyalty if not your logic. Nothing personal here...we just have very different views. :D

Thanks. I think;)

In keeping with the tone then, I offer this:

http://media.gallup.com/poll/graphs/...ph2_bcor6s.gif


Obama electability is slipping away?:hmm:

TDK1044 05-01-08 02:00 PM

Truthfully, I think McCain will probably beat either of them. It should be fun to watch though. :D

NEON DEON 05-01-08 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
Maybe its a case of Hillary running scared? Check this out - just developing:

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EXCLUSIVE: Hillary Clinton to appear for first time ever on FOX NEWS' 'The O'Reilly Factor' Wednesday night... DEVELOPING...
http://www.drudgereport.com/

-S

And the result.
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/play...26716&src=news


Clinton slam dunk :yep: :up:

Sea Demon 05-01-08 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TDK1044
Truthfully, I think McCain will probably beat either of them. It should be fun to watch though. :D

Oh, it will be fun to watch. But I'm not happy with the prospects of McCain in any way. I simply cannot get excited for his candidacy. The silver lining will be watching Democrats ripping each other apart.


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