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antikristuseke 04-15-08 03:21 PM

OH NOES, the world is changing, everyone run!:roll:

mrbeast 04-15-08 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
And things are not perfect on thsi side of the pond either -

Study: Divorce, unwed parenting costs billions

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24119052/

-S

And this atricle hardly strengthens your case that marriage is the answer to societies ills, half of it is from an expert who not only casts doubts on the financial cost of low marriage rates but also suggests that 'marriage stenthening' programs would make a marginal impact, stable weel paid jobs would be better.

Herr_Pete 04-15-08 03:30 PM

really subman! what do you want us to do, do tell.
or are you going on a pintless rant on some statistics.

SUBMAN1 04-15-08 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mrbeast
And this atricle hardly strengthens your case that marriage is the answer to societies ills, half of it is from an expert who not only casts doubts on the financial cost of low marriage rates but also suggests that 'marriage stenthening' programs would make a marginal impact, stable weel paid jobs would be better.

Read the whole article. There are two sides presented there.

-S

Kapitan_Phillips 04-15-08 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
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Originally Posted by XabbaRus
Pointless drivel.

If thats you attitude, its about as pointless as anything else on this forum. Just because you don't like the message, doesn't make it pointless.

I should point out, my point is from the beginining is the loss of interest in marriage in the UK. Not sure where I lost people on that, but it seems to be only UK'rs that I lost. Maybe there is a point to be made here? :hmm: Pun not intended though.

-S

No, I've followed from the start, its just old news to me.

XabbaRus 04-15-08 03:35 PM

I concur with Kaptain here. It's the way you wrote it subman with all your vitriole and sarcasm. I think that is what put people#s backs up.

SUBMAN1 04-15-08 03:37 PM

Hmm - sorry. Not the intended way I am trying to put it. My diplomatic skills must be off today.

-S

mrbeast 04-15-08 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
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Originally Posted by mrbeast
And this atricle hardly strengthens your case that marriage is the answer to societies ills, half of it is from an expert who not only casts doubts on the financial cost of low marriage rates but also suggests that 'marriage stenthening' programs would make a marginal impact, stable weel paid jobs would be better.

Read the whole article. There are two sides presented there.

-S

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But Tim Smeeding, an economics professor at the Maxwell School of Syracuse University, who was not involved in the study, said he's seen no convincing evidence that the marriage-strengthening programs work.
"I have nothing against marriage -- relationship-building is great," he said. "But alone it's not going to do the job. A full-employment economy would probably be the best thing -- decent, stable jobs."

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Another expert not connected to the study, University of Michigan sociologist Pamela Smock, suggested that bigger investments in education would pay long-term dividends -- improving economic prospects even for children from fragmented, disadvantaged families.

"Providing a global number doesn't give us anything to go on," said Smock, who was skeptical of the study's $112 billion estimate.
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Blankenhorn said it was "fair criticism" to note that the study made multiple references to marriage-strengthening programs while not proposing other strategies for reducing the cost of family fragmentation.
I read all of the article and as I stated before it doesn't really strengthen your argument much.

It seems to suggest that its not unmarried families that cost public money but fragmanted families.

Whats better a disfunctional married family or a functional unmarried family?

SUBMAN1 04-15-08 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mrbeast
...Whats better a disfunctional married family or a functional unmarried family?

Does this even exist? Read the proceeding article to get an answer.

-S

mrbeast 04-15-08 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
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Originally Posted by mrbeast
...Whats better a disfunctional married family or a functional unmarried family?

Does this even exist? Read the proceeding article to get an answer.

-S

Yes

mrbeast 04-15-08 03:45 PM

So whats the answer?

Jimbuna 04-15-08 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Kapitan_Phillips
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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
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Originally Posted by XabbaRus
Pointless drivel.

If thats you attitude, its about as pointless as anything else on this forum. Just because you don't like the message, doesn't make it pointless.

I should point out, my point is from the beginining is the loss of interest in marriage in the UK. Not sure where I lost people on that, but it seems to be only UK'rs that I lost. Maybe there is a point to be made here? :hmm: Pun not intended though.

-S

No, I've followed from the start, its just old news to me.

Same here.....don't pick on us Brits if you please. http://imgcash2.imageshack.us/img134/9742/angry8se2.gif

For the record....I'm in my 24th year of a happy marriage....now there's an oditty http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/6...ydh5wc2zm2.gif

STEED 04-15-08 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna
For the record....I'm in my 24th year of a happy marriage....now there's an oditty http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/6...ydh5wc2zm2.gif

One of the dying breed there jim. Long term marriage is heading for extinction.

SUBMAN1 04-15-08 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mrbeast
So whats the answer?

Let me help you:

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...Bad news—very bad news—because the links between crime and family breakdown are so well-established nobody could deny them anymore. Likewise, the link between marriage and children’s well-being is not a subject for debate—it is documented. And as marriage declines, so does the birth rate....
Thats the tip of your iceberg.

-S

antikristuseke 04-15-08 04:10 PM

Guess I'll just have to come and break up your marriage to advance the atheist evolutionist worldwide conspiracy in the destruction of the institution of marriage which is only a small part of the plot to ultimately destroy the world with godlessness.:shifty:
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SUBMAN1
I should point out, my point is from the beginining is the loss of interest in marriage in the UK. Not sure where I lost people on that, but it seems to be only UK'rs that I lost. Maybe there is a point to be made here? Pun not intended though.

-S
To answer your question, you didnt loose people at the part where you stated that there is a loss of interest in marriage in the UK, but at what conlusions you drew for that. And this is all the seriousness I am willing to provide to this nonsensical thread.


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