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Deimos01 03-23-08 10:12 AM

Ok, never mind on the TMO question. Got it sorted out. :up: I copied the extracted folders into the MODS folder. They showed on the list in JSME but didnt enable. I then extracted into the MODS folder and everything appears to work just fine now.

Now to see if I get the display error.

Doolittle81 03-23-08 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Deimos01
...I copied the extracted folders into the MODS folder. They showed on the list in JSME but didnt enable. I then extracted into the MODS folder and everything appears to work just fine now.

....

That's very odd. I always extract any Downloaded Zipped/RARed MOD into a Folder outside of my SH4 Folder(s)....usually just into a folder in my download section.

Then I simply copy/move the MOD folder into the MOD folder of either my SH4 1.4 or my SH4 1.5 Folder, or both, depending on the MOD's compatibility and desirability. That always works and the MODs are always ready for enabling with JSGME. I've never extracted a Zipped MOD directly into my SH4 MOD folder. As I said, your experience is an odd one.

Syneval 03-23-08 02:12 PM

I'm running vista ultimate x64 with the latest beta nvidia drivers ( specifically to fix some pirates of the carribean issues ), and I haven't had any problems with v1.5. In fact, I'm seeing improved performance. My vidcard is an 8800gts320, and vista has all relevant hotfixes and sp1.

jahlmeen 03-23-08 05:05 PM

Having the same problem...
In my case I could get it when switching to periscope or when moving the camera from but just in rare cases, I mostly got it at torpedo hits or torpedo launchs. However when I tuned down graphics abit (on max noramly) it wasent 100% sure to ctd but still a chance.

Comp: Quadcore Q6600, 3gb DDR II SDRAM 667 MHz PC2-5300, 8800GTS 640MB, Vista

Could it be the bad ram?

Somehow I get a feeling this will take months to sort out, as with most problems I've had with SH4 :hmm:

Someone with problems in Vista tried geting XP?

cheers

Doolittle81 03-23-08 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Syneval
I'm running vista ultimate x64 with the latest beta nvidia drivers ( specifically to fix some pirates of the carribean issues ), and I haven't had any problems with v1.5. In fact, I'm seeing improved performance. My vidcard is an 8800gts320, and vista has all relevant hotfixes and sp1.

Specifically what drivers are you using? I've gone to the latest for VISTA, 174.20. and all seems to be going well...although I've really only logged an hour or so with 1.5 and 1.4 so it's hard to say yet if the problem has been totally solved, or not.

My RIG specs, by the way, are:
ASUS P5N32-E SLI
Dual core E6700 Cpu
2GB OCZ PC2 8800 (1100Mhz) RAM
BFG 8800GTX w/768MB Graphics card
Audigy2 ZS
4 Seagate 400GB hard drives in a 0+1 RAID array
Plextor PX-800A
Samsung SyncMaster 244T 24" Widescreen LCD Monitor 1920X1200 native resolution
Windows VISTA 32bit

cdrsubron7 03-23-08 10:04 PM

I've gone back and restarted also. Completely the old version of Vista 964-bit) off my hard drive by formatting the drive and then reinstalled Vista again. Using the newest beta drivers from Nvidai that I could get. Got all the updates and SP1. Installed SHIV for the 100th time in the last two weeks and then installed the addon and went to try and play SHIV and can't get past the blame activation screen. I get some unknown error when trying to activate the dumb thing. Ubisoft in their infinite wisdon has struck again. :down:

Doolittle81 03-24-08 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Doolittle81
LOTS of experimentation today!! It IS SH4 1.5 !!!!!

I ran many single missions, copying same from one Data/Single Missions folder to the other so that I was running the exact same Mission (files,etc) in both 1.5 and 1.4. MANY missions, maybe all, once the enemy was engaged and some sort of action took place with explosions, whether torps hitting ships or DD's firing hitting my Sub with surface fire, for example, 1.5 repeatedly (almost predictably) Crashed! SH4 1.4 ran as smoothly as it has for the past nine months.

I'll admit, that I ran some missions in SH4 1.5 when I did NOT crash-to-D or BSOD, and I had great optimism/hopes.....but it seems to be totally unpredictable.

SH4 1.4, however, even MODded to H&ll and Back, never Fails!

So: SH4 1.5 + VISTA + a great Graphics card such as in the 8XXXX series = Crashes.


Okay I have done much more methodical clinical research on this.

Using One mission, I ran it in both SH4 1.4 and SH4 1.5, as I did before. The mission has several destroyers attacking my surfaced sub head on, engaging with LOTS of surface gunfire. I am firing torpedoes and engaging with deck gun. LOTS of action.

It runs flawlessly in 1.4, without a hiccup.

Running it in SH4 1.5, with exactly the same in-game graphic settings, it locks up/crashes/needs re-boot at the very first shot from a DD gun!!!

Okay, so I reboot and start SH4 1.5, etc, and change in-game graphic settings, unchecking the "Post Processing" and "High Texture" options. The mission then runs perfectly with all that same Action/explosions, torpedo hits, everything. So one concludes that it is one or both of those Graphic Options which cause the problem...right??


BUT, without exiting SH4, I then went to the Graphic Options and re-checked both those options (PostProc and High Texture) ON, apply them, and run the same mission again. This time the Mission runs flawlessly, even though the first time with all the same options checked ON it had crashed immediately.


So, the situation seems to be the following:
SH4 1.4, even MODded to H&ll and Back, never Fails!

SH4 1.5 + VISTA + a great Graphics card such as in the 8XXXX series = Crashes IF you have both Post Processing and High Texture options Checked ON. If you uncheck them, 1.5 runs fine. Oddly, though, you can uncheck them, then re-check them back ON, and 1.5 will run fine.

Surely someone on the development team can use these odd facts/results to isolate whatever they did in the code in 1.5 to cause such a weird response to the graphic options. It is definitely something in 1.5!!!!

Deimos01 03-25-08 08:07 AM

Here is where Im at now.
Vista 32 Home Premium
Vista SP1
All wndows updates
Dual 8600gts in SLI
Intel core 2 duo @3g
2x 1gig DDR2 memory sticks

With the new card and SP1 on a clean install of Vista I seem to be experiencing the nvlddmkm error at a signigicantly reduced frequency. I've had 3 sessions with SH4 1.5 that lasted at least 1 hour or more each time. Only during one session (navigation training mission) did I get the error and it happened twice within 2-3 minutes. My thoughts are that in my case this may be connected to something else.

The other problem I have with my system is that it will not re-start. To clarify, if I go to the start menu and hit RE-START not shut down, when my comp tries to come back up it always hangs on the Dell load screen (the one where you can go into the boot menu). It will do this during an auto restart when loading new apps as well. Had this problem since day one. I have to actually shut down the comp and then use the power button the bring it back up. Im wondering if thats not a memory problem. Any thoughts? And could this be connected to my nvlddmkm problem?

Doolittle81 03-25-08 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Deimos01
...The other problem I have with my system is that it will not re-start. To clarify, if I go to the start menu and hit RE-START not shut down, when my comp tries to come back up it always hangs on the Dell load screen (the one where you can go into the boot menu). It will do this during an auto restart when loading new apps as well. Had this problem since day one. I have to actually shut down the comp and then use the power button the bring it back up. Im wondering if thats not a memory problem. Any thoughts? And could this be connected to my nvlddmkm problem?

Sorry....I can't help with the Re-Start problem. Sounds like Dell should be able to figure out a solution.

Meanwhile, I should add that since I loaded the new Nvidia 174.20 drivers I have not seen the nvlddmkm error/warning message a single time! Yes, SH4 1.5 with Post Processing and Texture High options ON does cause a hard crash to a Black Screen, and I must do a Computer ReStart...BUT, I do not see a specific nvlddmkm error. That problem seems to have been resolved by the 174.20 drivers.....and something else unique to SH4 1.5 is causing that specific Game to crash.

Deimos01 03-25-08 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cdrsubron7
I've gone back and restarted also. Completely the old version of Vista 964-bit) off my hard drive by formatting the drive and then reinstalled Vista again. Using the newest beta drivers from Nvidai that I could get. Got all the updates and SP1. Installed SHIV for the 100th time in the last two weeks and then installed the addon and went to try and play SHIV and can't get past the blame activation screen. I get some unknown error when trying to activate the dumb thing. Ubisoft in their infinite wisdon has struck again. :down:

Just a shot in the dark. Is the error for some missing file and if so did you opt to install directx 9.0c with SH4? I opted not not to install the Directx thinking my copy of Vista woulda had it already. Got an error for a missing dx file when trying to start the game. I just DL'd and installed the latest Direct x runtime components from microsoft and the game started just fine.

jahlmeen 03-25-08 05:12 PM

doolittle I dont think the problem is with Post process and High qual. text., not for me atleast lol. I resinstalled SH4+Uboat and could play with max settings without a problem (with the mentioned settings above on) however I also use nhancer to get some antialasing for that stadimeter. And when I turned on nhancer settings I would get the error.

Deimos01 03-25-08 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Doolittle81
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Originally Posted by Deimos01
...The other problem I have with my system is that it will not re-start. To clarify, if I go to the start menu and hit RE-START not shut down, when my comp tries to come back up it always hangs on the Dell load screen (the one where you can go into the boot menu). It will do this during an auto restart when loading new apps as well. Had this problem since day one. I have to actually shut down the comp and then use the power button the bring it back up. Im wondering if thats not a memory problem. Any thoughts? And could this be connected to my nvlddmkm problem?

Sorry....I can't help with the Re-Start problem. Sounds like Dell should be able to figure out a solution.

You would think. :nope: This one has them perplexed. This is why Im starting to lean towards all my issues being a memory problem. As part of the testing I tried to boot up with one 1gig stick installed. Got a BSOD on boot up. This happened with either stick on its own in any slot. :hmm:

Perhaps Im leaning in the wrong direction though?

Doolittle81 03-26-08 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jahlmeen
doolittle I dont think the problem is with Post process and High qual. text., not for me atleast lol. I resinstalled SH4+Uboat and could play with max settings without a problem (with the mentioned settings above on) however I also use nhancer to get some antialasing for that stadimeter. And when I turned on nhancer settings I would get the error.

I use nHancer and set AA at 4X with Multisampling. I have no problems other than, as I described above, when I start SH4 1.5 with Post Process and High Texture set to ON.


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