Well I have just bought SH4 again and the add on and guess what?

I am playing the Americans first and will only later go into the Uboat side.

I bought it because it offered more than just a German Uboat game, it has other benefits and makes me curious as to what the devs done.

I had nothing against the Pacific original but did feel I always wanted more from it and now I have got it. Dont understand what I have got but that will all pan out over the next few days.

Thanks UBI, please take my £25 for both and I hope it helps develop that SH5 one day

All I can say is that this U-Boat Add-on "controversy" has to be the silliest thing I have ever seen in a simulation community.

To those that are taking some kinda natonalistic stand over the game. Its not cool its not patriotic, it just makes you a borish oaf.

To those that are making a stand based on consumer ethics, you must be new to the simulation genre. Ubi-Soft while having room for improvement is treating the Silent Hunter fanbase pretty well. You wanna talk about anguish? B17 2: The Mighty 8th that was anguish there are so many to list where the community got royally buggered but this isn't one of them.

That said gentleman it's a Sunday and I have either a Sugar Boat out of Manilla or IX out of Penang to oversee, it sure is nice to have variety.

I can't wait for the sun to pass the yardarm.

Norwegians always make alot of sense.:up:

If you dont buy the addon/1.5 patch then obviously 1.4 is the last patch for you . I guess that Ubi said no more patches and the paid patch was born . Hopefully there will be lots more paid patches to come . cheers , sober out .

Do explain how 1.5 is a paid patch.

I think the $10 add-on's worth it, and I haven't touched the German side. Probably won't touch it until the modder's get a hold of the campaign files a bit... for a variety of reasons, I can't seem to stand the stock campaign.

I love the various improvements to the UI, and the performance increases have seemed to help. I can finally run at the native resolution of 1440x900 with all my goodies. That NVidia shimmering waves in the distance bug seems to have been fixed, too.

I haven't played enough to see all the other improvements/features, and I'm still missing TM, but what I've seem so far is worth the $10.

Yes because patches add entire dynamic campaigns pluss crap loads of new content. Whens my company of heroes patch with new factions and new single player campaigns comming?

I downloaded 1.5 last night. It's great, and makes worthwhile interface changes across the board, including to the fleet boats. I would definately buy it again, and I will continue to buy every thing the Silent Hunter franchise puts out, including a Destroyer Command II (hint hint).

Very candid post from elanaiba... :up:

However, I think you're going to continue to see a U-Boat vs. Fleet boat rivalry of sorts. Why? Because, even though SH4 is just a sim, it attracts, for the most part, a certain kind of serious (read: historical) sim player. I think a number of players in both camps are quite serious about their gameplay, and this attitude can certainly find it's way into opinion and posts.

So, then, in "fairness" to the PTO Fleetboat crowd, I'll expect to see a more "PTO-centric" patch (1.6?), that incorporates PTO Fleetboat fixes, requests and game resources (new vessels!) in the future.;) Charge $9.95 like Ubi did for 1.5 and I'll buy it too... :up:

Thanks for sharing the thoughts elanaiba. Just downloaded and installed the expansion yesterday and for the money and additional content, it's a great deal.

Umm, as a COH user, who has the expansions. The patches ARE free. It's the add-on content thats paid for. Are you sure you own a copy :|

Yes, COH has one paid expansion (also works stand-alone) - Opposing Fronts.

COH is an interesting example in that all players can play MP together, provided they are patched to the last version.

But unless you have both version of the game (COH and Op Fronts) you cannot choose those specificl factions in MP, even though the opponents you meet have them. Very cool!

Of course, some users had to install a 1.2+ gigs patch for that to happen.

I think a destroyer/surface fleet exp is in the works.

Really :o I never had such problems.

The largest problem with most games is the securerom. Nothing more annoying than paying for a product (usually 2-3 sets so my brother and friends can LAN) then find it takes you 4 days to swap drives around or install over network drives while enduring unkown errors.. We have even had to resort to using 'tools' to allow a legitimate install :lol:

Fortunately, this is where Ubisoft is one step ahead :yep:

Yes but the u-boat expansion comes with new content, its not just a patch.

And yes I play company of heroes online almost once a day.

If you had the original company of hereos and wanted to patch up to the latest version without buying OF, you had to get a 1.2 gigabyte patch that contained all the required files to play against the two new factions. Which is good IMO because otherwise it would split the online community into those who have the expansion, and those who dont which is bad.

So is 1.4 getting patched to 1.5 without the addon or recieving its own patches?