Not really... :-?

Far as I am concerned, both test me, but each in different ways. I actually learned to surface attack on my first attempt in GWX when I tried it, whereas it took several attempts in SH4, so no... I disagree about that. In any case, SH3 is a totally different game. Comparing the two is like comparing apples and oranges IMO. Which is why I don't do it.

I just wanted to say its quite a nice game.. even though I am not THAT keen on it (currently)... my first patrol went pretty well, winds me up a treat, frustrates me to the hilt, but despite all that... I have a Medal of Honour to show for my first patrol and 50,000 japanese tons at the bottom of the sea! so... I may well dabble again when I get another gap.

Thanks very much gentlemen... I'm going back to the Atlantic now... but best of luck to you all, give them hell! :up:

Finally someone with good senses around here.

Now lets argue about apples and oranges :p

You're an evviilll man- and I like it! This would be good because diving to PD against an air attack could still get you thrashed if you don't go deeper.

What files would that be in? Still learning the game structure.

Mastered the surface attack!!!!?????
 

Quick, someone tell Steeltrap!!! Matter of fact, tell me, because the only successful surface attack I've done was in a raging storm, where I was effectively submerged anyway.

So "I've mastered the surface attack." she says. Took her about an hour, she says. Then "goodbye" she says! :nope:

Worst of all, I suspect she's telling the truth!:damn: Here I've been buggering around the Pacific for months attempting every once and awhile to execute a surface attack, she comes, "masters" it in an hour and leaves! :/\\x: I'm leaving before I say something and get thrown in the brig....

Well I'll tell anybody how to do a surface attack in SH4 or 3 if somebody will tell me how to do s submerged attack in SH4!:up:

Because the reason I did a surface attack was because that I was forced to submerged ones were not working for me I kept getting caught.

Its dirt simple, take a few moments to see the composition of the convoy, keep a distance, but not too far so that you can't see whats what. Then you obviously wait till the cover of darkness if its not dark already, see what is the best way into the convoy, and then take it (if need be get into a position first at the edge of visibility). As you are sneaking in, be sure to move slowly as in 6 or 7 knots slowly, so not to make a massive wake and create attention to yourself, fire your torpedoes and then get outta there don't wait for the pretty boom booms.

Obviously while you are in the determining the composition of convoy stage, you take a few moments to decide how you will escape once you have done the deed, do you dive and creep out, or do you make a calm orderly withdrawl on the surface?

Really, its all about patience, and figuring out what you are going to do before you do it. Surface attacks are not impossible, sometimes you can get up close and personal, other times, you have to blast away from a distance. This is what I learned from SH3 at any rate, and while they are two very different games, with a bit of modifacation you can make it work on SH4 too.

"Why else post?"

um...:hmm:

just for the sake of it I guess... Some people, whatever forum you go to, just love to press that "submit reply" button, and any reason or excuse will suffice. :yep:

I never said SH4 is "great", its good, but... well, we all have our preferences.

I for one am glad that the majority of SH4 players who have made me so welcome and were willing to discuss with me the game here did so, thanks to them. :up:

I DO NOT! I resemble that remark.:rotfl:

Actually I don't reply to a lot of stuff, and I know you weren't singleing me out, but this case I couldn't resist.

I'd be happy to but WernerSobe has done it MUCH better than I can for TDC/PK technique. His videos are down right now, but the WernerSobe Advanced Submarine School of Attack Tactics (WASSAT) still offers two of the three classes, the first an introduction to SH4 attack philosophy http://files.filefront.com/SH4+Basic.../fileinfo.html and the second an advanced course in Torpedo Data Computer/Position Keeper wizardry at http://files.filefront.com/SH4+Compl.../fileinfo.html. If you care to take a seminar on how three of us adapted SH3 techniques to American U-Boats:lol:, dubbing it the Dick O'Kane attack method, check out my seminar at http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...6&postcount=67. Once you graduate, you'll be a certified killer!:up:

We're still looking for a copy of WernerSobe's tutorial movie on sonar only targeting. If anyone can find a copy, please get it to me and I'll host it with the others. Werner's material is too good for us not to make sure it is always available.

Capt.Penny,Go in under the thermal.
 

Surface,to PD.,& knock'hem dead:dead: :up: :yep: hit full use the stern tubes,on the esscorts:roll: hitting submit reply,have fun:sunny: