I manage development IT projects for a living and projects NEVER go as planned!
So what do you do? You include buffers to handle those problems. If you dont, then you are sure to have issues.

However im sure the devs asked Ubi for more dev time.

No wonder the devs in SH4 dev videos were a litle upset....
Imagine a CTD in front of the camera...:rotfl:

Almost as entertaining as a BSOD while showcasing your shiny new OS to the press... eh Bill? :up:

Windows 98 due to driver conflict?:lol:

Indeedski. :D

Знао сам!!!
I knew it!!!:rock:

Just another moan and groan thread. Nothing I haven't read 1000 times.

No.
No one has gone to jail for creating a computer game.

Funny how such a bad game has eaten up a couple hundred hours of my entertainment time. I would have spent about $500 in movie tickets by now as an alternative. I wonder how many of those movies would have been 100% satisfying?

80% of this SH4 area has been hijacked by the hate crowd. The creativity shown in enticing people to read the rants is without equal.

Half the flaws in every software is between the keyboard and the seat.

If you are using Windows XP you are using software which has had thousands of flaws patched and it has taken YEARS and not done yet. Stop buying computers and stop buying games and you'll be 100% satisfied.

Obviously you haven't lived very long. Computer games have been produced with flaws since day one.
When did it become OK? Nearly 30 years ago.

WHEN DID IT BECOME OK TO TRY AND MAKE THE WORLD AS MISERABLE AS YOU? Oh about 10 years ago based on the evidence.
-Pv-

Around the same time the personal computer was created.

You've read a thousand complaints? hmmm what does that tell you? It's time to pull your head out of your rear and realise that people that complain about things like this arent HATERS. They are simply making a statement about how they dont like what they see. And, well you have read a thousand of them so that must mean that something is wrong huh? This is a forum right? If you don't like it, too bad! Don't read them.

Diggs,

Take it up with UBI customer service. Forum members did not create the game, we are only attempting to fix what we can and get a list together of bugs needing correction in hopes that UBI will correct them.

Simply making a statement is fine but not really three pages worth on the forum. If you wish to lodge a complaint then do so with UBI customer service and also their forums.

Perhaps because I've been visiting Subsim for almost 4 years and it's the best submarine community out there. This community has always been about people coming here and sharing a common interest and to help one another. The problem I have is when 2/3rds of the posts on the first page of this forum is nothing but bitching about the same issue.

For example, this morning we had an additional 2 topics on the forced retirement issue when we already have a thread 10 pages long dedicated to that topic. Neither of these 2 topics had a half decent description of the issue (or I would have skipped them). Instead, I open “What the FRACK?!?!” thinking someone was experiencing a problem and perhaps it would be something new or something I could perhaps help with.

If you are really that upset, do something constructive like write a letter or get in contact with Ubi. Posting endless threads about how “this game sucks,” or how this bug ruins it for you does nothing but add noise to the forum that makes it harder for people to find what they are looking for.

Don’t get me wrong, you have a right to complain and be upset. However, it should be contained in already existing threads so as to not clutter up the forum.

:roll: :damn:

Has anybody of those who complain, wondered why Ubisoft published SH4 with so many weaknesses???????
(just initialy because now the game is heading straight to the top again). I can think of some reasons:

-They didn't notice the weaknesses.

-They didn't know how to make it.

-They didn't care about the reputation of the company.

-They wanted their money right now with a bugged game rather than after four months with a better game.

-They didn't care about the prospect of developing the SH series in the future, thus didn't care about the future profit.

If all these make any sence to you then you can keep on complaining.

Even though we are these who payed, we are also responsible for the early releaze of the game!Let me remaind you that the 1.1 patch was releazed before the game itself!!!!!

Don't underestimate the power of this very old forum!

KEEP ON HUNTING!!!

Because I am willing and happy to reward the kind of customer-oriented attitudes that are sorely lacking in the game software biz today.

I'm sorry, but I don't accept the argument that the software biz/project dev has always been like this and always will be. In EVERY industry there is a short-term incentive to "smash and grab" -- reduce quality, reduce customer service, cut costs, get revenue ASAP, and let tomorrow worry about itself. And occasionally there are competitive companies that resist this urge, take a longer view, and try to cultivate a reputation for quality and service. If they are successful, they can command a premium from happy and loyal customers. Think, for instance, about the different between Northwest Airlines and Singapore Airlines. Which one invests in its image and service? Which one has a brighter future?

I actually think there is a profitable market for a software publisher that is known for consistently delivering high-quality FINISHED games. I actually think that they could charge a premium in this market that would more than make up for its higher costs and delayed sales.

My "belly-ache" about SH4 isn't that it's a bad game -- it's a great game, even with all its present flaws. It's that the game has SUCH POTENTIAL to be so much better, almost god-like, if a little time and attention were paid to it before it got pushed out the door. And then everyone could hail Ubisoft for breaking the trend, and I would honestly pay more attention to anything that Ubisoft released in the future because I'd know it would be top-notch.

The game I bought is worth about 35 bucks. After all the patches and mods, it will eventually be worth the $50 I paid. But if it had really lived up to its potential, it would have been worth $100. Ubisoft and other software publishers should ponder that for a moment. (But they probably will just think I'm an idiot. And when you start thinking that your customers are idiots ...)

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Too true!!