Worked ok until I started to get attack by air at night.:damn:

I get attackd at night too--however--I frequently have planes fly by me at close range and not attack like they didn't see me--I was traveling at ahead 1/3--clear weather--rough seas.. does not seem very realistic.

Well I believe Japanese planes didn't have self sealing tanks. But heck the American planes blow up just as bad. :dead:

Really? I didn't know that? I thought the planes were totally out of control in SH4. I've seen more planes in ONE mission of SH4 than ALL of the missions I've played in SH3!:shifty: (And That's a lot of missions):huh: So I don't know what to think at this point.

I was under the impression the Japanese were totally clueless about radar till mid-late war.

The planes did not have advanced-enough radar to compete with what the UK gave to the U.S. - so they were doing their flying by eye, instead of doing radar pings. Remember, this is 1941-1944.... There was no radar prior to 1943. (By then, they had developed primitive radar systems for the european theater pilots, they were never brought to the pacific theater if I recall correctly.)

The assumption you have to make is that you only get to see planes that spotted you. Alternately, we make some fixed loadouts for them. Make a high % of them unarmed, for example. You still need to dive to be sure, but you don't get whacked as often.

Note that every zero should be armed with no bombs. The H6Ks might be armed with 2 or 4 100kg bombs (sure, they could carry more, but on a routine patrol why wopuld they since they'd likely not get the chance to attack. Instead they report the sighting, and take lighter bombs to increase their patrol range.

tater

So was I, but I found that here: http://www.history.navy.mil/library/...b_doctrine.htm

That was written in 44 so Japan either had it or they used some other means to detect RADAR signals. I really don't know, just attempting to get into the Dev's reasons why!

The doctrine was written in 1944, so the war was still on.
However, after the war the Navy sent a team to Japan to research what capabilities the japanese had, technology wise.

You can find a lot of info here:

http://www.fischer-tropsch.org/prima...USNTMJ_toc.htm

Section E05 and E07 might give you a clue:

The starting comment in E-05:
"The Japanese were as backward in radio and radar direction finding as in other branches of electronincs. Direction finders, as such, were confined generally to ranges below 20Mc..."

And in E07:
"The Japanese had reached approximately the stage in countermeasures development that was reached in the United States in 1942"

Introduction of the SJ radar: 1942
Operating frequency of the SJ: ~3000 Mc (or MHz if you prefer)

If I interpret the info I found correctly, then the US skippers had more to fear of a radar breakdown, than of being detected by the Japanese. And radar breakdowns happened frequently. I read somewhere, that on several occasions radar broke down, and that the radar technicians literally had all the equipment spread on the conning tower floor trying to repair the #$%% thing (excuse my using French :D ).

Now THAT should be in the game: You're watching your PPI and POOF out it goes...

groetjes,

There are a number of ways one can mod the game to address aircraft, and still keep the game from becoming too easy, and aircraft still a threat.

1.) Reduce the number of squadrons that airbases have. (you know one of them have as many as 24 squadrons?)

2.) adjust airstrike.cfg

3.) reduce aircrafts max speed by X percentage so they don't come up on you as fast, allowing a bit more time to dive.

4.) Increase subs diving time (1Min and 10 seconds is a bit too long)

5.) Some combo of all of the above.

AIRSTRIKE.CFG -FILE

Maximum Aircraft Range=1000
Poor Airbase Modifier=0.2
Novice Airbase Modifier=0.35
Competent Airbase Modifier=0.5
Veteran Airbase Modifier=0.7
Elite Airbase Modifier=1
Night Modifier=0.5
Default Air Strike Probability=02
Enemy Air Strike Probability Increase on Radio Messages Sent=10
Friendly Air Strike Probability Increase on Contact Report Sent=70
Enemy Air Strike Probability Increase on Player Detection=10
Atenuation Factor=10
Logic Steps Between Air Sessions=10

==================================

As promised guys. BOLD UNDERLINE are the values i modifed.

no glitches and i play the heck outa this game. I find the game way more enoyable now with only the occasional airplane coming out to bug me.

Question...aircraft have been ruining my campaign since 1.3 I have gotten bombed 3 patrols in a row and cannot finish one patrol in a career. My watch sights the aircraft and I never have enough time to dive. so I was wondering...how can i modify the dive times to be shorter...and does anyone have any historic suggestion as to how fast the subs typically crash dove to avoid planes? thanks.

Is the number squadrons, or planes?

If it's squadrons... then the number is absurdly high, particularly for CVs (which should then be reduced to 1:1:1 for squadrons, even ignoring the fact that 99% of the time they'd have no planes airborne).

tater

submarines never have fun shooting down planes, it was only if they don´t have enough time to dive.

shooting down planes as seagulls is ridiculous, all submarines crash dive before the planes arrive ,for this a lot of U.S boats travel submerged during the day.

Read this real patrol log and you will realize what a menace planes were .
http://www.aimm.museum/SS-394/1944-1...r_Patrol_1.pdf