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Snowman999 04-07-07 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck B.
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The test, at least as far back as "Top Gun" has been if the work shows the US military in a truthful, positive light.
I can see Top Gun being described as "positive" when it comes to the image of the US military that it emits, but I had to smile when I read "thruthful" :)

I'm with you on that . . .

The one exception to truthful that DoD balked at, that I'm aware of, was "Crimson Tide" (ob submarine ref.) The script involved loss of control over nuclear weapons authority (among other howlers), so the Navy didn't lend any assistance. The resulting mis-mash (stock footage of various subs including a 688, uniform mistakes like the COB wearing an officer's cover, rotating red lights inside the hull, a dog pissing on missile tubes, etc.) still leads to real sub crews watching it in a Rocky Horror-esqe manner.

Snowman999 04-07-07 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by tommyk
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Originally Posted by Snowman999
I can't see what in SH4 DoD could have kittens over, except perhaps that mournful opening sequence.

jepp, and I guess they would be happy to see it replaced with an opening like the one done by CaptainCox...

Where or what is this one?

Snowman999 04-07-07 11:35 AM

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Anyhow, the awards in SH4 are SO corny and childish as to be offensive.
From what I've read here I'd have to agree. It's part of the overall not understanding US Navy culture and traditions, especially those unique to submarines, that detract from the overall immersion for some vets. Perhaps this can be modded, but it shouldn't have to be.

Earning dolphins was one of the high points of my life. It, and many other things, ought to be in a product that purports to be a sim.

tommyk 04-07-07 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowman999
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Originally Posted by tommyk
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Originally Posted by Snowman999
I can't see what in SH4 DoD could have kittens over, except perhaps that mournful opening sequence.

jepp, and I guess they would be happy to see it replaced with an opening like the one done by CaptainCox...

Where or what is this one?

I was referring to the "The Silent Service Graphic Mod 1.1" made by CaptainCox. I like it very much over the stock opening movie...
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=110756

davejb 04-07-07 03:18 PM

You're all just annoyed that only us Brits got a sheep medal.

Tigrone 04-07-07 04:07 PM

I'm annoyed that the US medals were removed.
 
I'm annoyed that the US medals were removed without explanation. This is disrespectful and insulting. I strongly dislike the artificial substitute medals. They are not acceptable.

I am unhappy that Ubisoft has not replied to requests for assistance or information to fully implement the US medals in the game.

Lack of documentation and communication and unexplained reasoning are causing a good deal of confusion and frustration.

Snowman999 04-07-07 05:37 PM

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I was referring to the "The Silent Service Graphic Mod 1.1" made by CaptainCox. I like it very much over the stock opening movie...
Looks like something I'll be getting when I get the game (maybe post 1.2) The stock opening I watched on-line and it was horrible. Milton is fine, but the devs completely missed the spirit and attitude of the USN on 12/8/41. I don't think Euros CAN understand. We wanted revenge, not poetry about the futility of war.

I noticed SH3 didn't get a vid of Berlin in flames . . .


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