People like you are what keeps our military the best in the world. You have my sincere thanks!:up: Troops would not live without you. THAT is serving a country.

I agree with ASWnut101. You, my friend, are one of the unsung heroes.

AVGWarhawk, that comment was directed at Waste Gate and Waste Gate only.

And I answered. AVGWarhawk, gave you the focus you needed.

I didn't expect an answer and you didn't give one.

It's as simple as this. One small armed force and two large problems.
You can deal with two problems half a$$ed and loose ground and ultimately loose both battles which is happening in both Afghanistan and Iraq, or you can consolidate and cleanse one. All this posturing and bravado you dislay can't hide that fact and ignoring it doesn't make it go away as distasteful as it is.
Which one do you choose:
Afghanistan - Initial target, Taliban and poppy trade.
Iraq - Civil war, insurgency/terrorism operations from both religious sides.

To me the logical choice is Afghanistan. Leave a training and advisory cadre in Iraq and shift your force to Afghanistan.

Promtped by bradclark's post, does anybody think that a force reduction from Iraq would be countered by a troop increase in Afghanistan?

Lets review. This was your question:
Well, you could get out of your armchair, put your money where your mouth is and enlist. Or are you a coward?

This was my answer:
No less a coward than those who didn't enlist after Dec 7, 1941, and yet were the muscle behind the arsenal of democracy. Not all courage is displayed on the battlefield same as cowardice. Courage is in the heart not the rifle. Much like cowardice is in the heart not the vote.

I can't be the judge as to how you like the answer. That is my answer. So as you can see I answered the question. Like it or not.

Muscle behind the arsenal infers action of some sort so what action are you doing to support the effort?

Certainly no less than you. Unless you include the belief in optimisim as to the efforts of the US and a willingnes to help on the home front. You seem to lack that. You are a doom and gloom guy. Its a wonder you are able to drag yourself out of bed in the morning.

I support them more!

No, I do!

*pointless*

To Students of psychology:

Notice that when wastegate and bradclark1 go at it with each other ...
that they don't use smiley's ... :hmm:

Nice Observation:lol:

No, I served my country to the point that I couldn't and can't serve anymore. Ignoring reality isn't optimism.

No again. I'm a realist. You choose to ignore the truth because it's ugly and the choices are ugly but they have to be made.

I ignore nothing. I just choose to believe that it can and will be better instead of being mired down in the tread of other people's pessimism.

You are on the same course of another from this board who seems to think that the only way to serve your country is thru military service. That isn't tue and you know it. That opinion not only belittles AVGWarhawk, a member here, but also the work of the following US citizens who did not sere in the military, but certainly contributed to past war efforts.

Thomas Jefferson
Benjamin Franklin
John Quincy Adams
Abraham Lincoln
Franklin D. Roosevelt

Every signitor to the Consitution of the United States.

So if you consider these people as ignoring the truth then I will stand with them thank you very much!

Guys, first of all thanks for the vote of confidence and I really do enjoy getting the troops the ammo/arms and other things that go bang! (believe me, we move some crap that really goes BANG!) May drivers are top notch! Many are Viet Nam vets who have their kids serving in Iraq. These drivers enjoy doing this a much as I do. It is their way to show support to the troops and their kids fighting it out there in Iraq. Most have painted their trucks with huge American flags and show a lot of pride in America and the troops. We are all government security cleared to move ammo/explosive, as well as, secret material. Trust me, there are over 100 shipments a day moving through/in or out of the country. You would be amazed at what we transport. At any rate, I was not attempting to ruffle any feathers. I was pointing out that those that can not join up and fight the good fight have other ways to show support. This is what I do and I also send out emails on the sites that allow me too. I tell them my family is behind them all the way!!!! Let face it, it is not fun and it is really not fun if your support system is not their. I, for one, are glad we have the troops we do. When I meet one of our troops I thank them and shake their hand.

Again, not ruffling feathers, just stating that I'm Rosie the Riveter for the war in Iraq:yep:

Here is the company I work for. http://www.landstar.com/Services/AandE.html


My job does not stop there. I also transport for the Belgium Military as well as the Netherland Military that are based here in the US. I send plenty of sidewinders to the Belgium pilots stationed at Andrews AFB. Some sidewinder inert and some very active! The fellow I work with from Belgium, Dirk Van Loon, is a great guy and great to work with! In essence, the US is not alone in this. Other countries are in it with us and I'm glad they are. If the people in Belgium and the Netherlands are anything like the guys I work with here in the states, they are awesome people in my view. I'm glad to have them as Allies.

I also transport for Northrop Grumman who is still very active in fighter development. These folks also require secured services for the new developments. In your day to day, much goes on that know one knows about except for a select few. Nothing like moving an amiphibious General Dynamic tank under cover with armed Marines in the middle of the night while America sleeps soundly. Hell, two years ago me and 4 teams of drivers gave up our Christmas to move tanks for the military. We were glad to do it!!!!