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Torplexed 02-04-07 09:19 PM

Where was Building Seven? Right in the line of fire. Ohh. That's right. This is a secret gubmint Photoshop job.

http://lokishammer.dragon-rider.org/...pse_damage.jpg

Same tired theories. Same tired video links. Same tired quotes in a bold typeface. :roll:

However...view them if you wish. It's up to everyone to make up their own mind.

nelson1985 02-04-07 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Torplexed
Where was Building Seven? Right in the line of fire. Ohh. That's right. This is a secret gubmint Photoshop job.

http://lokishammer.dragon-rider.org/...pse_damage.jpg

Same tired theories. Same tired video links. Same tired quotes in a bold typeface. :roll:

However...view them if you wish. It's up to everyone to make up their own mind.

but so was building 5 and 6 and they did not fall down.

Dowly 02-04-07 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by nelson1985
but so was building 5 and 6 and they did not fall down.

That doesnt prove anything. Maybe they were hit by an slightly less amount of debris, maybe the debris didnt damage the other structures so badly, maybe the goverment ran out of bombs, maybe there was a mini-earthquake below WTC 7, what if the other buildings were protected by some invisible force shield that was salvaged from Roswell, maybe Chuck Norris was holding the other buildings together with his 8 extra hands he can grow in two seconds if needed.

So many possibilities... :hmm:

nelson1985 02-04-07 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly
Quote:

Originally Posted by nelson1985
but so was building 5 and 6 and they did not fall down.

That doesnt prove anything. Maybe they were hit by an slightly less amount of debris, maybe the debris didnt damage the other structures so badly, maybe the goverment ran out of bombs, maybe there was a mini-earthquake below WTC 7, what if the other buildings were protected by some invisible force shield that was salvaged from Roswell, maybe Chuck Norris was holding the other buildings together with his 8 extra hands he can grow in two seconds if needed.

So many possibilities... :hmm:

Maybe they were hit by an slightly less amount of debris? how so? there was right under the towers.

ASWnut101 02-04-07 09:33 PM

I only hope there is only one conspiratroll.


How can some people belive this stuff?

On the "ultra-rare flight 93 footage" Here:

(maby a tad-bit of ranting here, sorry!:-? )

Flight 93 was a Boeing 757, United Airlines owned and operated. A Boeing 757 carries 11,489 gal (43,490 l) of Kerosene based Jet Fuel (Jet-A). The Aircraft weighs 255,500 lbs (115,680 kg). When a large aircraft such as the 757 impacts the ground, it moves so fast that you will not have a large creater. Why? Have you ever seen a high-speed camera film of an armor-peirceing explosive rocket impacting a tank? The same effect is for a 757, as there is no centerline fuel tank. You have over 40 feet of aluminum tube impacting the ground at 400-550 mph. This is then followed by the wing tanks, which, from the initial impact, would have already either broken free or come very loose, flinging the tanks into the ground at 400-550 miles per hour. The resault: You will not get a very large radial explosion, because the fireball/exlposion was flung into the ground. But even a 400-550 miles per hour explosion of death can't penetrate very deep into the ground before being absorbed. That is a, if not the, very-real reason why the creater is so small.


SOURCE: http://www.boeing.com/commercial/airports/757.htm

Dowly 02-04-07 09:33 PM

I´m no expert, I´m just saying that it´s possible. ;)

nelson1985 02-04-07 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASWnut101
I only hope there is only one conspiratroll.


How can some people belive this stuff?

On the "ultra-rare flight 93 footage" Here:

(maby a tad-bit of ranting here, sorry!:-? )

Flight 93 was a Boeing 757, United Airlines owned and operated. A Boeing 757 carries 11,489 gal (43,490 l) of Kerosene based Jet Fuel (Jet-A). The Aircraft weighs 255,500 lbs (115,680 kg). When a large aircraft such as the 757 impacts the ground, it moves so fast that you will not have a large creater. Why? Have you ever seen a high-speed camera film of an armor-peirceing explosive rocket impacting a tank? The same effect is for a 757, as there is no centerline fuel tank. You have over 40 feet of aluminum tube impacting the ground at 400-550 mph. This is then followed by the wing tanks, which, from the initial impact, would have already either broken free or come very loose, flinging the tanks into the ground at 400-550 miles per hour. The resault: You will not get a very large radial explosion, because the fireball/exlposion was flung into the ground. But even a 400-550 miles per hour explosion of death can't penetrate very deep into the ground before being absorbed. That is a, if not the, very-real reason why the creater is so small.

source?

ASWnut101 02-04-07 09:50 PM

look again. happy now?:shifty:

baggygreen 02-04-07 10:17 PM

When i read rubbish like these conspiracy theories i cant help but laugh! Oh yes everyone, the US Govt was working with the aliens and made a laser beam that they put into a customs jet.. hahaha.

Real people died in these savage, unannounced attacks. By propagating theories stating they were murdered by their govt, and that its all a hoax and a lie, you're showing contempt for the memory of the 3000-odd people.

Do us a favour and think critically before you post. Even better, dont post such emotionally-charged, completely unsubstantiated crap. Same goes for that bloke who joined up just to post more theories about all the lies that we've been told.

nelson1985 02-04-07 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by baggygreen
When i read rubbish like these conspiracy theories i cant help but laugh! Oh yes everyone, the US Govt was working with the aliens and made a laser beam that they put into a customs jet.. hahaha.

Real people died in these savage, unannounced attacks. By propagating theories stating they were murdered by their govt, and that its all a hoax and a lie, you're showing contempt for the memory of the 3000-odd people.

Do us a favour and think critically before you post. Even better, dont post such emotionally-charged, completely unsubstantiated crap. Same goes for that bloke who joined up just to post more theories about all the lies that we've been told.

did you read Operation Northwoods? and im sorry if i dont trust my government and news like some of you guys do.

Chaotic42 02-04-07 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by nelson1985
Maybe they were hit by an slightly less amount of debris? how so? there was right under the towers.

Can you account for all of the debris, all of the energy, all of the motion of all of the particles in the attack? If not, then you're just guessing. You have no idea what happened, what forces occurred where, and what hit what. You're just spinning your wheels.

At least your posts are funny. I've got to give you that much.

nelson1985 02-04-07 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaotic42
Quote:

Originally Posted by nelson1985
Maybe they were hit by an slightly less amount of debris? how so? there was right under the towers.

Can you account for all of the debris, all of the energy, all of the motion of all of the particles in the attack? If not, then you're just guessing. You have no idea what happened, what forces occurred where, and what hit what. You're just spinning your wheels.

At least your posts are funny. I've got to give you that much.

yup its as funny as trying to find weapons of mass destruction in iraq lol.

GSpector 02-05-07 01:41 AM

http://www.bombs-away.net/forums/ima...es/soapbox.gif
Okay, I've read this entire thread and I just have 1 question, how was Seth put into the Brig for mentioning having an illegal copy of software yet these 2 can post the most irrelevant piece of trash in a forum dedicated to Sims and mostly about Subs?

I for one, am in favor of kicking both nelson1985 & elite_hunter_sh3 off this forum just for spouting these conspiracies. I do not think they have added 1 bit of fun or education to this site.

From an outsider point of view, if this was the 1st thread I read, I would not return.

I recorded 8 6hr tapes starting the moment these tragedies hit the news. I saw the footage, I heard the comments, I felt the pain and to see someone post that what I saw was a lie, is outrageous at best.

I am a strong believer in the "Freedom of Speech" but that freedom does not give people the right to hurt others with lies. If you wish to educate, then educate with facts especially on topics such as this.

You want to claim the Moon Landing was really filmed in a Hollywood Studio or somewhere in the Nevada Test Range, that's fine. Granted it would hurt those we admire like Neil Armstrong or Buzz Aldrin but no lives were lost.

This should not become a Forum that allows people to recruit others to believing these or any other conspiracies where many lives were lost.

My Grand-Mother escaped to the U.S. to avoid the Holocaust so I am also very offended when I here people claim it never happened. What's the difference. Both happened whether we choose to believe it or not.

If you can't have respect for the dead, at least have respect for the living that that know and accept the truth.

I encourage others look at the posts by these 2 and tell me they add anything positive to this Forum. I did and I see a very disturbing pattern.

nelson1985 02-05-07 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSpector
http://www.bombs-away.net/forums/ima...es/soapbox.gif
Okay, I've read this entire thread and I just have 1 question, how was Seth put into the Brig for mentioning having an illegal copy of software yet these 2 can post the most irrelevant piece of trash in a forum dedicated to Sims and mostly about Subs?

I for one, am in favor of kicking both nelson1985 & elite_hunter_sh3 off this forum just for spouting these conspiracies. I do not think they have added 1 bit of fun or education to this site.

From an outsider point of view, if this was the 1st thread I read, I would not return.

I recorded 8 6hr tapes starting the moment these tragedies hit the news. I saw the footage, I heard the comments, I felt the pain and to see someone post that what I saw was a lie, is outrageous at best.

I am a strong believer in the "Freedom of Speech" but that freedom does not give people the right to hurt others with lies. If you wish to educate, then educate with facts especially on topics such as this.

You want to claim the Moon Landing was really filmed in a Hollywood Studio or somewhere in the Nevada Test Range, that's fine. Granted it would hurt those we admire like Neil Armstrong or Buzz Aldrin but no lives were lost.

This should not become a Forum that allows people to recruit others to believing these or any other conspiracies where many lives were lost.

My Grand-Mother escaped to the U.S. to avoid the Holocaust so I am also very offended when I here people claim it never happened. What's the difference. Both happened whether we choose to believe it or not.

If you can't have respect for the dead, at least have respect for the living that that know and accept the truth.

I encourage others look at the posts by these 2 and tell me they add anything positive to this Forum. I did and I see a very disturbing pattern.

im sorry you feel that way about me. by baning me you are taking my free Speech did you try to verify the things i said? what did i lie about?

Gizzmoe 02-05-07 02:30 AM

Poll: Who thinks that elite_hunter and Nelson are the same person?

I do... Same writing style, same lack of apostrophs ("dont", im").


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