SUBSIM Radio Room Forums

SUBSIM Radio Room Forums (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/index.php)
-   General Topics (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/forumdisplay.php?f=175)
-   -   What is the state of your country? (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=103185)

bradclark1 01-12-07 05:56 PM

When we talk about the U.S. system and some(to include me) see it as a way of helping people that are in a hole. Others see it as people being lazy and working the system. We are talking about two different groups of people, the legits and the illegits. Our goverment works at making people dependent on them. To them you either need assistence or you don't, period. Take for example a single mother of (insert number). If she is working a job but is not making enough money to support her family it is beneficial to her to quit work altogether because she can't provide through her job. The goverment is all or nothing. There is no increments of help. You are totally dependent on the goverment or you don't get anything. They don't reward trying, they only reward failing.
Same with medical. If you don't work and don't have anything you can get all the medical you want. If you are trying to make it, the answer is sell whatever you have in order to pay medical bills. All or nothing.
If you are on welfare etc there should be a work corps that you go to for the state or federal goverment doing work on public land, working a farm, providing daycare for others, job training, etc.
When you are working but not making enough to support your family you should be elegible for incremental benefits. You make so much you get so much. You get so much benefits you provide so much time to community service.
We are supposed to be one of the most civilized countries in the world and no one should go hungry or go without medical care. It should be your right as an American.
A system should be put in place that does not reward failing but rewards trying.

U-533 01-14-07 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konovalov
Quote:

Originally Posted by U-533
We are being degraded from within...Demographics show America will be Muslim in 40 years. Seems we Americans better get off our collective BUTTS and do some baby making and learn how to keep our families together.

U-533,

Can you please provide evidence to support your assertion? How did you come to such a conclusion? Look forward to your evidence based reply. Thanks.

Working on it...:up:

I have had some work and computer problems ...but Im back in the saddle... please be patient.

Edited


I cannot find the site for the Southern Baptise Convention Preacher that I heard on the Radio...I am still looking.

But here is the site I believe he pulled his statements from... not really to sure about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogra...us_affiliation

Yes yes I know ...it has a religious tone but I did say Muslim

as you look under the Population decreases and increases it shows and defiant drop in American Christians ... here I would like to point out that this shows some religions I do not consider to be true Christian Faiths ... that said if you look at the increase of immigrants and we know that as they enter the USA they bring their own religions and family values to bare on our way of life here in the USA.

Now the Christian Faith asks you to take responsibility for your actions and way of life... if you don't you get prayed for in hopes that you will change your mind and heart... there will be no be-headings or guns pointed at you in an attempt to change your mind.

The Muslim religion asks you to do good also...but if you don't take their way yooouare an infidel and we know what they like to do to infidels

Now with that said Americans (most of them anyway) have no stomach for fighting over good and evil we just want money and stuff ... so giving ones life for the keeping of freedom is uncalled for and should be avoided at all costs....

Now that said If the birth rate of Muslim Immigrants is not kept in check buy out producing them in babies ...
Over a Million American babies a year are Aborted
American Family units are down to 1.5 children as opposed to the Muslim belief in huge families I think the average was close to 4.5 children ...
keeping the American way of life here ... If our Government doesnt close its borders and clean up
start supporting larger families
... Is it not safe to assume that the USA will be Muslim Country in the near future?

Yes I do see America becoming a Muslim country in 40-45 years... maybe sooner...
Paranoid?... I hope not.
If I am then no worries for everyone else.
I live here and I watch every day as my countrymen are bombarded with Liberal Media telling us "not to worry all of man kind will be at peace we just need to talk our way out and GIVE everyone what they want then you will be happy and peaceful"...I watch everyday as my countrymen fall into that trap...

Im going to stop here I tend to ramble and chase rabbits trying to prove a point... My loving wife has pointed this out to me several times.

one more thing there are Mosques being built on almost every corner in Florida ... well in the big cities anyway... and they are packed to the gills...

Tronics 01-15-07 05:12 AM

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh

I'd say that my country is in a state of mass confusion but aside from that it's somewhat fine.

Despite a growing trend of lunacy and idiocy infecting the ever growing waistlines of state and local governments, the lights are still on, however there are some things that worry me.

1. State Education: There has been a noticable decline in the 'quality' of American education across the board to makeup for increased 'quantities' of students being ushered into an ever dwindling number of schools. States have had to apply filters to the respective 'levels' of their education, usually they are of the terms Above Grade, On Grade and Remedial.

Most public schools are forced into the system of promoting students that utterly fail the academic requirements designed to somehow "faciitate the creation of well-rounded individuals", so therefore those guidelines are ovbiously inadequate so the state decides to lower the bar every three years or so for their mandatoy assessment tests. In turn we have an education system that has no real reprocussions for failure and therefore it becomes tolerated and bred into a new generation as an 'acceptable' standard.

This is exceptionally sad in the southern states, TX, AZ, NM, and CA where there is a massive influx of ESOL students and a load of state sponsored 'red-tape' to "protect student rights" resulting in situations where teachers cannot fail students because they cannot comprehend the subject matter since the state decided that it is "outside of their culture".

Literally a student that does not speak, read or otherwise comprehend English CANNOT be given a failing grade for an English (Social Studies) class, or an English as a Second Language class since the language is ovbiously "outside their culture".

In essence most public schools have become nothing more but elaborate daycare centers.

2. Mass Media:

Has clearly overstepped it's bounds, we now live in a world of 24 hour news and the rivalries have developed to a point where basic fact checking has become completely irrelevant. The worst of it is that people seem to accept what they are told for face value, and the culture has become infested with the constant monitoring of celebrities lives.

It's rather sickening, however I've never noticed it untill I started spending large spans of time traveling between Japan and the US and the media situation is spiraling out of control.

However there is hope, I've noticed that a rather large portion of frequent internet users are unknowingly abandoning the use of TV alltogether, as I rare bother to watch it anymore.

3. The Political System is Fine:

It's just going through a regular cycle, oddly enough I don't care for either Dem's or Rep's and I don't push any loony third parties either.

Personally I want the Electoral College to split the number of electoral votes based on the popular vote swing of that specific state in order to give third parties a chance, the U.S to withdraw from the UN, and for real laws to be enacted calling for elected officals to freeze their stock assets while in office to avoid all the backroom dealings, and I'd like for NASA to get more funding since the future of mankind is destined in the stars since we have a bad habit of collectively consuming resources.

However I'm realistic enough to not expect any of these to happen, ever, and I reluctantly accept the merits of the current system as it is.

4. Religion:

I'm tired of hearing the extremists being popularized on national syndications and I'm pretty sure that the other 90% of America is tired of it too.

Personally I don't believe in any of it. I've come to terms with the possibility that all there is and all that will ever be eventually decays into it's most fundamental forms and ceases to exist, whatever happens past this step will forever remain unknown untill personally experienced by everyone.

It's a stark view but it seems to have given a greater value to individual life.

Konovalov 01-15-07 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by U-533
Quote:

Originally Posted by Konovalov
Quote:

Originally Posted by U-533
We are being degraded from within...Demographics show America will be Muslim in 40 years. Seems we Americans better get off our collective BUTTS and do some baby making and learn how to keep our families together.

U-533,

Can you please provide evidence to support your assertion? How did you come to such a conclusion? Look forward to your evidence based reply. Thanks.

Working on it...:up:

I have had some work and computer problems ...but Im back in the saddle... please be patient.

Edited


I cannot find the site for the Southern Baptise Convention Preacher that I heard on the Radio...I am still looking.

But here is the site I believe he pulled his statements from... not really to sure about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogra...us_affiliation

Yes yes I know ...it has a religious tone but I did say Muslim

as you look under the Population decreases and increases it shows and defiant drop in American Christians ... here I would like to point out that this shows some religions I do not consider to be true Christian Faiths ... that said if you look at the increase of immigrants and we know that as they enter the USA they bring their own religions and family values to bare on our way of life here in the USA.

Now the Christian Faith asks you to take responsibility for your actions and way of life... if you don't you get prayed for in hopes that you will change your mind and heart... there will be no be-headings or guns pointed at you in an attempt to change your mind.

The Muslim religion asks you to do good also...but if you don't take their way yooouare an infidel and we know what they like to do to infidels

Now with that said Americans (most of them anyway) have no stomach for fighting over good and evil we just want money and stuff ... so giving ones life for the keeping of freedom is uncalled for and should be avoided at all costs....

Now that said If the birth rate of Muslim Immigrants is not kept in check buy out producing them in babies ...
Over a Million American babies a year are Aborted
American Family units are down to 1.5 children as opposed to the Muslim belief in huge families I think the average was close to 4.5 children ...
keeping the American way of life here ... If our Government doesnt close its borders and clean up
start supporting larger families
... Is it not safe to assume that the USA will be Muslim Country in the near future?

Yes I do see America becoming a Muslim country in 40-45 years... maybe sooner...
Paranoid?... I hope not.
If I am then no worries for everyone else.
I live here and I watch every day as my countrymen are bombarded with Liberal Media telling us "not to worry all of man kind will be at peace we just need to talk our way out and GIVE everyone what they want then you will be happy and peaceful"...I watch everyday as my countrymen fall into that trap...

Im going to stop here I tend to ramble and chase rabbits trying to prove a point... My loving wife has pointed this out to me several times.

one more thing there are Mosques being built on almost every corner in Florida ... well in the big cities anyway... and they are packed to the gills...

You managed to say a great deal there without providing me any statistical evidence what so ever to support your case. Nor did you display a formula that could be used to calculate your dramatic projection as to the demographic of the United States in 40 years time. I can only conclude that your claim is wild, baseless and without any foundation. What a total bummer. :down:

The Avon Lady 01-15-07 09:36 AM

Let's just say possiblly somewhere between 40 and 100 years. :shifty:

Konovalov 01-15-07 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
Let's just say possiblly somewhere between 40 and 100 years. :shifty:

Little green vommit link and your post don't hold water. :shifty: I ask for facts and evidence and all I get is boo-hoo scare. :zzz:

U-533 01-16-07 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konovalov
Quote:

Originally Posted by U-533
Quote:

Originally Posted by Konovalov
Quote:

Originally Posted by U-533
We are being degraded from within...Demographics show America will be Muslim in 40 years. Seems we Americans better get off our collective BUTTS and do some baby making and learn how to keep our families together.

U-533,

Can you please provide evidence to support your assertion? How did you come to such a conclusion? Look forward to your evidence based reply. Thanks.

Working on it...:up:

I have had some work and computer problems ...but Im back in the saddle... please be patient.

Edited


I cannot find the site for the Southern Baptise Convention Preacher that I heard on the Radio...I am still looking.

But here is the site I believe he pulled his statements from... not really to sure about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogra...us_affiliation

Yes yes I know ...it has a religious tone but I did say Muslim

as you look under the Population decreases and increases it shows and defiant drop in American Christians ... here I would like to point out that this shows some religions I do not consider to be true Christian Faiths ... that said if you look at the increase of immigrants and we know that as they enter the USA they bring their own religions and family values to bare on our way of life here in the USA.

Now the Christian Faith asks you to take responsibility for your actions and way of life... if you don't you get prayed for in hopes that you will change your mind and heart... there will be no be-headings or guns pointed at you in an attempt to change your mind.

The Muslim religion asks you to do good also...but if you don't take their way yooouare an infidel and we know what they like to do to infidels

Now with that said Americans (most of them anyway) have no stomach for fighting over good and evil we just want money and stuff ... so giving ones life for the keeping of freedom is uncalled for and should be avoided at all costs....

Now that said If the birth rate of Muslim Immigrants is not kept in check buy out producing them in babies ...
Over a Million American babies a year are Aborted
American Family units are down to 1.5 children as opposed to the Muslim belief in huge families I think the average was close to 4.5 children ...
keeping the American way of life here ... If our Government doesnt close its borders and clean up
start supporting larger families
... Is it not safe to assume that the USA will be Muslim Country in the near future?

Yes I do see America becoming a Muslim country in 40-45 years... maybe sooner...
Paranoid?... I hope not.
If I am then no worries for everyone else.
I live here and I watch every day as my countrymen are bombarded with Liberal Media telling us "not to worry all of man kind will be at peace we just need to talk our way out and GIVE everyone what they want then you will be happy and peaceful"...I watch everyday as my countrymen fall into that trap...

Im going to stop here I tend to ramble and chase rabbits trying to prove a point... My loving wife has pointed this out to me several times.

one more thing there are Mosques being built on almost every corner in Florida ... well in the big cities anyway... and they are packed to the gills...

You managed to say a great deal there without providing me any statistical evidence what so ever to support your case. Nor did you display a formula that could be used to calculate your dramatic projection as to the demographic of the United States in 40 years time. I can only conclude that your claim is wild, baseless and without any foundation. What a total bummer. :down:

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Well Im sorry I only have 12 years of American education all the way though the 4th grade.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :roll:

Konovalov 01-16-07 06:15 AM

No skin off my nose. :D

The Avon Lady 01-16-07 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konovalov
No skin off my nose. :D

Go out and get some sun. :sunny:

Konovalov 01-16-07 07:28 AM

I would except for the fact that at this very moment it is wet and grey here in London with the sun no where to be seen. So this emoticon :sunny: is about as close as I will get to it. :down:

The Avon Lady 01-16-07 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konovalov
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
Let's just say possiblly somewhere between 40 and 100 years. :shifty:

Little green vommit link and your post don't hold water. :shifty: I ask for facts and evidence and all I get is boo-hoo scare. :zzz:

My post and LGF's entry only reflect what some Muslims themselves said. In no way did I mean to imply that these animal's ultimate goals are actually factual. LGF reader's general response, in fact, was to say "over their dead bodies".

So you and LGF commenters seem to actually agree. :yep: Vomitacious! :o

Konovalov 01-16-07 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
Quote:

Originally Posted by Konovalov
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
Let's just say possiblly somewhere between 40 and 100 years. :shifty:

Little green vommit link and your post don't hold water. :shifty: I ask for facts and evidence and all I get is boo-hoo scare. :zzz:

My post and LGF's entry only reflect what some Muslims themselves said. In no way did I mean to imply that these animal's ultimate goals are actually factual. LGF reader's general response, in fact, was to say "over their dead bodies".

So you and LGF commenters seem to actually agree. :yep: Vomitacious! :o

All of which in no way is an answer to my simple request for evidence and data that supports the wild claim made by U-533. :down:

The Avon Lady 01-16-07 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konovalov
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
Quote:

Originally Posted by Konovalov
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
Let's just say possiblly somewhere between 40 and 100 years. :shifty:

Little green vommit link and your post don't hold water. :shifty: I ask for facts and evidence and all I get is boo-hoo scare. :zzz:

My post and LGF's entry only reflect what some Muslims themselves said. In no way did I mean to imply that these animal's ultimate goals are actually factual. LGF reader's general response, in fact, was to say "over their dead bodies".

So you and LGF commenters seem to actually agree. :yep: Vomitacious! :o

All of which in no way is an answer to my simple request for evidence and data that supports the wild claim made by U-533. :down:

Indeed. I never meant it to be a scientific or statistical answer.

dean_acheson 01-16-07 01:26 PM

I am here in the States, and the state of the union is good.

The election last year did not go well for my party, but it is always good to let somebody else try it for a bit, besides, Pelosi, Reid & Co. ought to be good for some laughs, and usually divided government has the possiblity of gridlock, which is how I like my government, gridlocked, and not working.

The economy here is good.

You still get ahead if you work hard.

Folks at the UN seem to hate the President, which means that he is #1 in my book! lol!

Now, once this Iran thing is taken care of.... life will seem pretty good!

NEON DEON 01-16-07 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
Quote:

Originally Posted by Konovalov
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
Quote:

Originally Posted by Konovalov
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
Let's just say possiblly somewhere between 40 and 100 years. :shifty:

Little green vommit link and your post don't hold water. :shifty: I ask for facts and evidence and all I get is boo-hoo scare. :zzz:

My post and LGF's entry only reflect what some Muslims themselves said. In no way did I mean to imply that these animal's ultimate goals are actually factual. LGF reader's general response, in fact, was to say "over their dead bodies".

So you and LGF commenters seem to actually agree. :yep: Vomitacious! :o

All of which in no way is an answer to my simple request for evidence and data that supports the wild claim made by U-533. :down:

Indeed. I never meant it to be a scientific or statistical answer.

I must say that the notion of Islam being the largest religion in the USA in 40 to 100 years is pure fanaticle paranoia.

Here is a list of the top four religions In the US from a study done in 2001.

Christianity 76.7% = 230,100,000
No religion 14.2% = 42,600,000
Jewish 1.4% = 4,200,000
Islam .6% = 1,800,000

I think you need to find something else to be worried about.;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States#Demographics


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:42 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1995- 2025 Subsim®
"Subsim" is a registered trademark, all rights reserved.