Flag burning is highly offensive to me, and a lot of people. The guy who burns Old Glory knows that, and it fuels his desire for attention. It's the reason he burns the flag, to offend. If he wanted to use his free speech to change minds, win opinions, and further his goals, he would employ a little wit, some humor, a smattering of logic and reason. But someone who would burn a flag cannot put higher facilities to use. He's a garden variety idiot. Burning the flag is the social equivalent to dropping your pants and taking a massive dump in the middle of a crowded subway car. "Hey, look at me! See how stupid and offensive I can be?"

The thing for me is, when someone decides to be that offensive and that provacative, I feel moved to return the favor.

I would add it is the soldier, not the psuedo-intellectuals, forum philosophizers, and leet_skillz doods who has given us the freedom to debate the line of good taste and respect for national institutions.


And as Subman said, these people are cowards as well. Just like my Madonna example, a guy who burns a flag in the UK, Germany, Finland, or the US knows he can get away with it. We don't see him burning flags in countries like China of North Korea, do we? No, of course not. He doesn't have the balls.

I would hold them for you:smug:


I don't have anything personal against Noob, he's proven to have strong opinions that differ from mine, but he also has a good sense of humor. :)

I did find it ironic he is so anti-nationalistic but he also says he is a ward of the state :hmm:

you can really differentiate the Americans with the Brits here. Everyone is talking about the idea of being allowed to burn one flag and someone can burn yours in return. I voted yes because I don't think in Britain, people should be allowed to burn flags due to the fact that its only British and American flags that get burnt. I can promise you all one thing, I would be arrested if I burnt a flag that belonged to a politically sensitive nation such as Iran or Pakistan. They would not recieve the same treatment if they burnt a US flag here. In Britain you can do what you like as long as your not British or Christian and so its for this reason that I would want to ban all flag burning here in the UK.

Your only free to burn flags in this country if its a Union Jack or US flag your burning.

I have nothing against Noob either, except his idea that the burning of a national flag is ok. It's not at all ok in my book and many others feel the same way. To me that would be slapping my father, or theirs, in the face after he, or any soldier, was at war and fought for our right to be free. Freedom does not mean we have the right to burn our flag, or any national flag from any country. Just because someone else does it does not mean it's right.

You reap what you sow. And if one is a ward of the state then he should not bite the hand that feeds him. And thankyou Neal for holding their shorts so I can light the fire. I'd stand beside you any day for that right. :D :up: