Not before now I have started to take the reality of Brexit happening as indeed granted.

My sympathy is with the UK. However, the UK does not hold 750 billions in TARGET saldi like stupid Germany. Its easier for the UK to take the risk of damaging the Euro than it would be for Germany.

We've got common ground on that one. :yep: I understand why it's in place, but it is rather irksome.

Oh don't care for damaging anything anymore, the EU is doomed anyway or so you say, and then it will be "US FIRST" for each single nation again, and screw the others.

Wishing "them" the best. The citizens, yes, but not types like Farage. And Mrs May gets not much sympathy from me, not for running to Trump, and not for the Erdoghan weapons deal. It seems there is no other civilian plan around when it comes to economy. Maybe she can also make a deal with Assad to finance the Brexit?

The UN says that the Assad regime kills so many detainees it amounts to extermination of civilian population.
But who is the UN anyway, all those superfluous civilists, costing too much money and consisting only of leftists. Dissolve them and make all nations great again! :yeah:

Best ask that of the POTUS. He pulls the plug on the finances and the ship will sink quicker than the Titanic.

Jeremy reckons Clive Lewis quitting is not a disaster.

Now where have I heard the term 'fake news' lately? :hmmm:

Well, EDF is going to be having a good day today, people around Hinckley and here will be looking at the news with a bit of concern.

I do not think it is a "disaster" as well.

It is a difficult situation:
- A representative democracy, with experts (ahem politicians but .. lol) usually deciding for the people, or the greater good
- A referendum, that probably was not the best of decisions, but has to be obeyed. Even if the majority was neither big, nor did all vote
- Personal concience of what some think will harm the UK, or at least England
- The official party line, which of course has to obey the referendum.

The parliament decisions of both houses were the last straw to reject the outcome of the referendum at the last moment, so some people obviously felt that their personal conscience could not agree to the party line, and they sure did not do that lightheartedly.
And this is probably better than "blind obedience", although i admit this sounds too negative.

I think they had to agree, and the majority did. Good. That some try to what they see as to be a prevention of trouble lying ahead, shows that their personal conscience was more worth to them than the party line. This is not negative, but will certainly be seen as "treacherous", by some.

Is all this really Corbyn's fault?

^

When someone posts a YouTube link here, my FireFox browser shows nothing – all empty.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17...psryo1kwtz.jpg

I also do not see the YT videos in the Music thread, not in FF.

No Problem with Win 10 Edge browser, but i'd prefer FF :hmmm:

@Oberon

Makes perfect sense to me :doh:

Clear as mud :hmmm:

That's pretty impressive since that's not a YT vid. :yep:

Try these links and see which one loads, the top one is an imgur link and the bottom is where I got it from which is twitter.

http://i.imgur.com/8hu2uN4.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4ODYG3WEAAoslk.jpg

^ Thanks, worked. Still wondering about Firefox, will ahve a look into this over weekend.

And now it is all queer clear to me :haha:
Yes funny article, but holding some truth. It is embarassing for Corbyn, but on the other hand they at least followed their own conscience instead of a party doctrine.

In Germany, if we had e.g. a referendum at a certain moment like after a terrorist attack about death penalty, i am sure that it would come through. Kicking out foreigners? Of course. Make Germany great again? Why "again", not necessary :03::haha:
But you get the idea. People are not reasonable at times, and some never. Ask them about things they do not really understand, or prefer to act with a gut feeling instead of thinking? Populism rules then..

At the latest after this referendum, we should really think about what democracy is, and if we want to go on like this. More referendums sounds good, but might backfire. A college professor has the same voting power like a bum. Sounds elitist but is true. Shall we have a vote over nuclear power if most of the people do not understand it at all, nor do they care? Climate change? :hmmm:

Nothing like stating the obvious Jeremy....but this one is Hunt :)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-38926697

Shhh don't bring on ideas :O:

Well it's the german gallows humour, which is often much darker than what other countries have, or maybe understand (maybe scandinavians). Being serious about oneself is not popular, in Germany. It is there but boasting with it or showing pride is considered as arrogant, showing off, and very uncool.
It wasn't even serious before or in WW2, the government was and gave the impression. German jokes mocking the Fuehrer were much more acid and mean than what allied peopaganda could have done. Monty P. was a good approach though. But we are laughing at others too, they just don't get it :D

Ok, i of course understand what you mean :)