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Schroeder 01-07-16 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2371417)
The situation in Europe is so critical that Paris has been moved into Germany.

I think he means it as two separate things. The shootout in Paris is one and the massive sexual harassment / robberies going on in Germany by Arabs and North Africans is the other.

Even though I don't like that clown he has a point there.:/\\!!

Skybird 01-07-16 02:17 PM

The dimension of the political scandal increases. The evening's main news programs of both channels of the state TV have oepned with extensive reports of what i summarised above, followed by 20 minutes special programs after the 19:00 Heute broadcast and the 20:00 Tagesschau right now.

It seems that the police has arrested very many more people already very early on that evening, than the city's and the state'S government wanted to let the public know. Early incoming calls by the police on location for reinforcements, were rejected. Now no longer just one but several other policemen who were on location, gave anonymous testimony on the events. It has not been just "Northafricans" who were found in paper controls, but indeed many asylum seekers and migrants with ID papers form the federal office for migration, coming from Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan.

The police president as well as the political leadership now is under pressure to give a solid explanation why this has not been admitted earlier, and when and by whom the order to try to hide it from the public was given. The Why should be obvious.

Level of frustration amongst police officers seems to be at an alltime high. Many said that in that night they faced a hostile, mocking mob that stood like a wall and that left them completely helpless and showed zero respect for the state, police, law even when a victim was yelling for help just meters away. The police'S meaning and selfunderstanding - was reduced to a total ZERO. It seems this has shaklen many officer's psychic balance.

I have some advise there. Weapons out, opening fire. If not to kill - not that I would mind that much - then at least for self-defence, and crippling criminals that maul a victim.

Another problem is the absolutely crazy hurdles there are to send back asylum seekers who even were sentenced for criminal deeds of theirs. Refugees cannot be sent back if they are sentenced to a prison term of less than two years only. Recognised asylum seekers whose asyum request is being worked on, even need to be sentenced to a prison term of three years in order to open the option to kick them out. And the n there is the Geneva Convention, and the rule of the German Constitutional High Court that demand that nobody gets kicked out, no matter how bad his crime record is, if in his land of origin he is being threatened with risks to his health or life.

It is our moral obligation to harbour and protect even the biggest and greatest scum of the Earth.

I reject to give my approval to such evil, wicked and underhanded "moral" standards that demand me to rape my own moral values in favour of this. I refuse to cooperate in legitimising our self-sacrificing in order to protect the criminal scum coming from other countries. If I go to another place and I am the guest, and ask for help - then I behave. And if I don't, and abuse hospitality, the others have all right nature can provide them with to beat me up, kick me out, even leave me dead. If I do not like that, then I should have thought about it before I started to play foul. No rights without duties. No favours without proper behaviour. the current asylum policy and international rulings on, I am opposed to since already long time.

mapuc 01-07-16 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder (Post 2371427)
I think he means it as two separate things. The shootout in Paris is one and the massive sexual harassment / robberies going on in Germany by Arabs and North Africans is the other.

Even though I don't like that clown he has a point there.:/\\!!


English isn't my native language, I see the punctuation after the word level and before the word Germany. So for me it means start of a new sentence.

Markus

Skybird 01-07-16 03:08 PM

Police now says that "Northafricans" were a tiny minority amongst those who were controlled. The majority were newly arrived Syrians - say the police officers who were there and who did the paper work. The main aim of the mob was sexual amusement in the first- by groping and raping girls and women.

The whole earlier "theory" that it was a huge organised crime orchestrated by criminal clans to rob travellers, now is in doubt.

http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschla...lbewerber.html

I bet money that this idiot who optimists still label as "police president", already is done. Its only a question of time until he gets sacked now. Just too late - and this although he has been at the centre of several other scandals in the past. But this desaster now is one too much.

Wildcat 01-07-16 04:56 PM

Europe is doomed if it continues to let in these animals. And that is what they are - they are wild animals incapable of controlling themselves. They have no place in normal western society and should be restricted to the middle east.

Idiotic leftism is the death of western civilization. :down: Immigration screening should be far more strict. If the applicants can't pass a language exam and cultural exam of the country they're trying to immigrate to they should be refused entry.

Saudi Arabia, UAE etc. should all be taking these savage rapists and robbers in.

Tchocky 01-07-16 05:14 PM

Oh good.

mapuc 01-07-16 06:21 PM

A friend who's from Syria and a Danish Politician wrote this on his wall

I have used google translate and tried to make it as perfect English as I could.

"The events in Cologne with collective cultural sexual assault on free Western women, confirms our proposal, that we only retrieves families from the UN-recognized refugee camps in the neighboring areas - exactly as Canada, which was praised for the initiative. Current asylum system is angrily sparkling lack of solidarity, since it concerns only those who have the elbows, the means and relations to come to Denmark - and about 40% of those who come are single men - not all democratic-minded men, who have not learned to respect the right of women to decide over their own lives, bodies and sexuality - and it is deeply troubling. Their primitive behavior will result in more confrontations, it is only the beginning, and those that are going to go as much besides the women are the many pro-democracy and law-abiding Arabs / Muslims in the West / DK. By retrieving only families themselves, perhaps we can prevent Cologne conditions"

mapuc 01-07-16 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky (Post 2371493)
Oh good.

Indeed

I respect his right to have his say, BUT I do not support his say-It's way to much

Markus

Wildcat 01-07-16 06:50 PM

Unlike most of the people in this thread I spent around 8 months in extremely close proximity to Turkish, Turkish Kurd and Syrian "refugees" in immigration camps, and let me tell you it was a living nightmare. The men in those societies are missing fundamental emotions and ability to control themselves. The minute they see or even HEAR a female they go insane and wild with comments about forced sex, rape, they do not care how uncomfortable it makes the woman. I saw this to be true *with my own eyes* for the vast majority of "refugees" from those nations.

It is easy to armchair quarterback but if you could actually see what is going on in their society you would tuck your tail between your legs and run as far as you could.

Prior to that experience I felt that refugees should be given a place to stay no matter what, but after seeing what is ACTUALLY going on, I feel very little compassion for most of them.
You do realize that probably something close to 95% of these refugees are nothing but people who want to work and make more money than they can at home? They certainly are not running from conflict - most of them make false claims about being tortured, persecuted etc. but it never stands up to even light scrutiny. They do not care for the culture of whatever host nation they're moved to. They are there to work and they KNOW that they're abusing the refugee system in order to stay there, and they don't give a damn about the local laws and have no intention of learning them.

These freaks make it impossible for people who actually are being persecuted to save themselves. By defending mass immigration you actually make it impossible for people who are TRULY suffering to get help.

In my whole time with them, I only met one guy, a 17 year old Turkish Kurd who was not a nutcase. He had a 16 year old wife living elsewhere with a 1 year old baby, and another on the way, and he was stuck in the camp - once they go into the refugee camps they can't go back, it's prohibited by law. His case ended up getting speed-tracked after he claimed to be seeing ghosts and repeatedly peeing in his pants. He got a visa within a week of doing that. If he hadn't done it he'd still be in the camp.

But hey, that's just my opinion after spending a year inside one of those camps and finding out about them in detail, what do I know.

Tchocky 01-07-16 06:54 PM

I spent four years in the Canadian Navy.

Ho, the stories I could tell.

Or was it the Cambodian Navy.

Hard to remember but they're ANIMALS I TELLS YA.

mapuc 01-07-16 06:56 PM

Now I'm sort of confused.

Markus

Schroeder 01-07-16 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2371517)
Now I'm sort of confused.

Markus

If I interpret it correctly Tchocky doubts Wildcat's story about having been with refugees for 8 months.

I myself have some problems believing that those people were from Syria both because of personal encounters with some and because of what a friend of mine who is with the "voluntary firefighters" told me. He drove a group of refugees to new homes. He said one could tell the Syrians from all the others simply because they were well mannered, did what they were told to do and were still pretty shaken from fleeing Syria with many showing PTSD symptoms.
However he also told me that he could describe the Afghans in that group with just two words: Asocial Thugs....:shifty:

Skybird 01-07-16 08:25 PM

One of the articles I linked to, meanwhile got translated into English and published in their international edition:

in English: http://www.spiegel.de/international/...a-1070894.html

What nobody has mentioned so far: the train station and its plaza are bordering directly to the famous Cologne Cathedral perimeter. These attacks took place right in the foregarden and the shadow of the huge church. - Imagine Western infidels daring to behave like this in front of the huge mosque in Rotterdam, raping Muslim women and girls - or imagine the scene happening at some god-forsaken village mosque in a Muslim country! An outcry would already have gone around the world, mabye embassie would burn once again, and the UN would fix an assembly to discuss the matter.

Schroeder,
the police does not say all people whose papers they controlled were Syrians. They say Syrians formed the biggest subgroup, and that they were a majority. Mind you, many Syrians coming here are young males and juveniles, without parents and family - especially no father giving them orders. At least 120,000 of those who came this year, were single young males of juvenile age.

I save myself from referring once again to what Gunnar Heinsohn has to say on the dynamics coming from such demographic mixtures.

Buddahaid 01-08-16 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2371417)
The situation in Europe is so critical that Paris has been moved into Germany.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYH_qsSW8AUAKdA.png:large

That is just who we need. Maxwell Smart!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...x-DonAdams.jpg

Well this is terrible news and I need to take it in without the rhetoric. :stare:

Dan D 01-08-16 05:51 AM

In Poland right-wing populists try to score with voters with anti-German rethoric, in the US right-wing populists try to score with anti-European rethoric and in Germany left-wing populists try to score with anti-American rethoric:woot:


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