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Onkel Neal 05-21-16 10:33 AM

How to stay on Windows 7 & 8 forever: here's how to stop the Windows 10 upgrade notifications

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In just a couple of months, Microsoft's free upgrade offer is due to end but we're all waiting to see if that actually happens. If it does, those Windows 10 upgrade notifications might cease. But of course they won't: Microsoft will simply want to you pay to upgrade after 29 July 2016.

Aktungbby 05-21-16 10:50 AM

Anybody heard about Windows 11 yet?:shifty:

STEED 05-21-16 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Aktungbby (Post 2406017)
Anybody heard about Windows 11 yet?:shifty:

Yes..


https://memecrunch.com/meme/BFNZF/ob....jpg?w=400&c=1

Rockin Robbins 05-21-16 12:15 PM

Windows 10--the New Coke of the 2010's

STEED 05-21-16 04:10 PM

Bloody Heck I just got a ear bashing from a mate on the phone! :eek:

Don't blame me for what Microsoft did! :confused:

Between the colourful language and ranting to kill Microsoft it seems his Win7 has been downgraded to Win10. I can't give a fuller account as he said he was going out to the pub to drown himself in beer before he put the phone down. :huh:

STEED 05-22-16 06:11 AM

Just got off the phone my mate is going to try to upgrade back to Win7 some time today.

Skybird 05-22-16 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Aktungbby (Post 2406017)
Anybody heard about Windows 11 yet?:shifty:

Its known since years that there will be no Win11, and that Win10 will be the last Windows release Microsoft did. At least that is their announced policy and plan. From then on it is only a cloud service, with pressing people to not only store data and software in the cloud, preferrably Microsoft servers, but the OS of POCs itself also will be a service stored and on every sytem start accessed and download via the cloud.

Shytti times ahead, I say. Total dependency and total vulnerability, combined in one solution.

Even worse: MS has signed alliances with hardware manufacturers that latest new high performance chips and hardware will be blocked via codes and onboardf sofrware (ROM) to work with lower OS than Win10. That means the hardware is not incompatible with W7 or W8, but it is artificially blocked to work with W7 or W8.

Shytti solutions from a shytti company. To hell with MS. May their HQ and server centres go up and burn down in flames. Maybe this would get people start using their brains again - but I would not bet on it.

It also has a terribly deep-rooting political implication, because the IT infrastructure of the world basing on a company's good will and its policies and never a publicly legitimized board of dirctors of said company is the most perfect coup d'etat that I can think of. If this system is in bed with the already corrupted poltical establishement, freedom and "democracy" are being turned into alibi propaganda stunts completely.

People get what they deserve. And I cannot see many deserving real freedom anymore. serfdom is much more what most people suits well these days. And they like it. The saying goes that everyone has his price. If that is true, most people can be had ridiculously cheap.

Rockin Robbins 05-22-16 08:24 PM

It doesn't really matter. People and companies will always exist which insist on independence as the only true security. That means having total control over what software is allowed to run on their machine. It means that all data must be locally stored - - no cloud. These people will be provided with access to suitable hardware and software simply because it will always be profitable to do so. The only question is who will do that.

The latest generation of AMD motherboards are very friendly to Windows 7 and they aren't slouches for speed either. Even with a Windows 10 install you can have one key access to the BIOS. During my little trip to the dark side I was very encouraged by the amount of freedom I could retain even with the Kryptonite Windows the poor customer insisted on.

GT182 05-22-16 09:13 PM

Last month I had to take my computer to my local MS store to get 8.1 repaired and have a virus removed that no antivirus software I have could find and remove. They had my computer for a weekend and when I picked it up they said they gotten everything fixed. I got it home and fired it up only to find they upgraded my computer to Windows 10.... WITHOUT my permission. That was their so called fix. So back it went and after suggesting a lawsuit they rolled it back to 8.1 with no fix.

A friend of mine that runs a mom and pop autoparts store had his 2 store computers running Windows 7 automaticly upgrade to 10 after starting them one morning. No asking if he wanted to upgrade or not... it was done without his permission.

HunterICX 05-23-16 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by GT182 (Post 2406376)
A friend of mine that runs a mom and pop autoparts store had his 2 store computers running Windows 7 automaticly upgrade to 10 after starting them one morning. No asking if he wanted to upgrade or not... it was done without his permission.

From what I've red and seen it myself on my work PC the latest ''Upgrade to Win 10 pop up'' will give you 10-13 minutes to decline or else it takes it as a Yes and goes ahead upgrading. (best part is the decline button is hidden in the ''more info'' button)

So if your friend leaves that computer running the whole day there's a fat chance that might've happened.

http://betanews.com/2016/03/13/micro...thout-consent/

If you don't want to update to 10 you should just get rid of that KB update that installed that ''Upgrade to Win10'' Pop up and chuck the Windows Update from automatically to off. It's stupid you have to do that but as you're forced to do so as Microsoft doesn't take a clear NO for an answer you're left without a choice really.:nope:

STEED 05-23-16 07:10 AM

Update on my friend his Win7 is back but there are problems he can not fix so hes taking it into repair shop this week.

STEED 05-23-16 01:52 PM

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Susan Bradley busts Microsoft in the chops

First and foremost I think Microsoft is being a bully on the Internet. A big bully. The manner in which Windows 10 has been pushed out the patching channel has me seriously questioning if I want to be associated with this Company going forward… No update should install without your explicit permission to do so. I don’t appreciate that it’s being done with the justification of “from feedback from Microsoft customers”. No, Microsoft, we asked you for an easier way to say no, thank you. No one asked you to schedule the upgrade for us.
http://www.askwoody.com/2016/susan-b...-in-the-chops/

They should be given a dam good spanking but MS may enjoy that. :03:

aanker 05-23-16 01:55 PM

A lot of people got hit....
 
May be of interest:
From AskWoody:

http://www.infoworld.com/article/307...o-recover.html

Onkel Neal 05-23-16 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED (Post 2406512)
http://www.askwoody.com/2016/susan-b...-in-the-chops/

They should be given a dam good spanking but MS may enjoy that. :03:

Microsoft? A bully?

http://static2.businessinsider.com/i...ompetitors.jpg

Onkel Neal 05-23-16 03:41 PM

Wow, this is getting out of hand :/\\!!

http://www.pcworld.com/article/30734...upgrading.html

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The redesigned GWX pop-up now treats exiting the window as consent for the Windows 10 upgrade.

So after more than half a year of teaching people that the only way to say “no thanks” to Windows 10 is to exit the GWX application—and refusing to allow users to disable the pop-up in any obvious manner, so they had to press that X over and over again during those six months to the point that most people probably just click it without reading now—Microsoft just made it so that very behavior accepts the Windows 10 upgrade instead, rather than canceling it.

Skybird 05-23-16 06:36 PM

Skunks stink, Neal, what's the surprise?

Its pointless to accuse a scorpion of stinging. Stinging is part of its true nature. Best advise is to avoid it and leave it to itself.

Or smash it with your boot, then it cannot run after you anymore.

Skybird 05-24-16 09:10 AM

Same story, different narrator.

https://www.thurrott.com/windows/win...ing-windows-10

STEED 05-24-16 10:23 AM

^Just been reading that article. :)

MS is like those big criminal banks not giving a dam who they walk over and hurt. They are a disgrace and I bet they will get away with it, that is too say the more evil backstabbing under handed tactics to come.

Skybird 05-24-16 11:14 AM

Some days ago, I posted this at Woody'S forum:

Marc says:
May 20, 2016 at 7:54 pm

People should not be surprised that MS does what it does, for it now officially does not care for private customers anymore like it once did, in the 90s when climaxing its dominace with Win95. But in recent years, MS has more and more pulled out of producing for private consumer market, their attempts to grab a hold in the smartphone market crumbled, their strategy with the Surface tablets has collapsed, and in the first market they have almost completed their pull-out, with the latter market being not updated with new hardware anymore, it seems to be set for getting abandoned sooner than later, too. Windows as a coin-generator has lost meaning due to Google and Apple with their OS hacking away at it, also MS Office sees strong and free competition via LibreOffice and Apache Office. MS more and more exclusively focusses on the server market and business sector, maybe cloud services. Private customers only disturb the routine here.

You guys feel ignored by MS for one simple reason. You are indeed being ignored for real, that simple. They do not care for you as customers anymore. In principle, you are just a surviving artifact of an older time long since gone, and nowadays you are a nuisance. They probably would prefer you would not exist – and your Win7 installations would seize to exist as well so that they can stop investing into their efforts of trying to transform them into W10.

Your hopes for MS turnign better again, are illusory. Your good will and patience is in vain. Wake up to the truth.

Rockin Robbins 05-24-16 03:34 PM

I predicted it four months ago. I posted the fix: a combination of GWX Control Panel and Spybot Anti-Beacon. It worked then and it continues to work now. Microsoft announced back in December that in the first quarter of 2016 the upgrade would no longer be voluntary. Why, why didn't people believe them? Why, when the solutions were published by me to the point where I received PMs to just shut up, didn't people take the medicine?

Nobody running those two programs, or even running GWX Control Panel alone, has seen the upgrade window. We've been trumpeting the solution for four months. Those being caught have no excuse.


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