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STEED 11-07-17 03:38 PM

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Brexit minister Steve Baker says it will take "no more than three weeks" to publish official reports on the impact of Brexit on Britain's economy.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41899729

The foul stench of deceit smells and this will not help.

Jimbuna 11-08-17 10:56 AM

Looking like Priti Patel is about to lose her job.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41904459

STEED 11-08-17 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2524177)
Looking like Priti Patel is about to lose her job.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41904459

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Priti Patel has resigned as UK international development secretary amid controversy over her meetings with Israeli officials.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41923007

Another one gone and Mrs May has become more weaker, she should have been sacked. Mrs May is falling apart and next week we get the Damian Green verdict. This government is weaker than watered down beer and the wolfs every where are enjoying it.

STEED 11-08-17 03:38 PM

Westminster scandal

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A key aide to Jeremy Corbyn, and the son of former Deputy Prime Minister John Prescott, has been suspended from his job.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-41912847

Dive for cover Jezzer old John Prescott could make a come back..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukx5PPXopkM

STEED 11-08-17 05:11 PM

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Theresa May waxwork revealed at Madame Tussauds
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-41916840

This Mrs May looks like shes in control unlike the real one. :03:

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cp...i042877128.jpg

STEED 11-09-17 07:05 PM

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The UK could remain in the EU if Leave voters could be offered a "game-changing" deal next summer, Gordon Brown has told BBC News.


But he predicted a "crisis point", when Leave voters realised they were not going to get what they were promised.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41899727

I never believed much that was said by both sides as both sides treated it like a bloody joke.

Skybird 11-09-17 07:06 PM

Its hard to believe that what the British government shows regarding Brexit negotiations, is real. As is known, I do not hold great expectations of politicians in general. But this pitiful sight is somethign that even me never would have expected.

This government is enjoying a diplomatic Dunkirk in Brussels. Just that it thinks it is a holiday boat tour with picnic and champagne at the end.

I think this all will end very, very badly for Britain. This stellar amount of dilletantism is self-made, and it deserves not the smallest reward.

The ordinary people will pay the price, while the pigs at the top will keep on grinning and smacking.

I am all for confronting the EU. But I beg you - not in such an amateurish, weak fashion!

STEED 11-09-17 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2524407)
Its hard to believe that what the British government shows regarding Brexit negotiations, is real. As is known, I do not hold great expectations of politicians in general. But this pitiful sight is somethign that even me never would have expected.

This government is enjoying a diplomatic Dunkirk in Brussels. Just that it thinks it is a holiday boat tour with picnic and champagne at the end.

I think this all will end very, very badly for Britain. This stellar amount of dilletantism is self-made, and it deserves not the smallest reward.

The ordinary people will pay the price, while the pigs at the top will keep on grinning and smacking.

I am all for confronting the EU. But I beg you - not in such an amateurish, weak fashion!

If and I say if we leave the EU bet the door will be wide open with the EU waving a great big chocolate bar in our direction saying there is more where this came from.

I see the UK going down the tubes and begging the EU let us back in the club. No doubt the master plan of the pigs at the top.

Skybird 11-10-17 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED (Post 2524409)
If and I say if we leave the EU bet the door will be wide open with the EU waving a great big chocolate bar in our direction saying there is more where this came from.

The big British folly.

Thats what we call your reaosning over here, and it has become almost proverbial by now: the assunption that Britain holds a strong ground against the EU and that the eU in the last second will blink, or just cannot wait and is eager to pave you a golden road back into the family. I think you are terribly wrong there. The anger abut your negotation team's lack of preparedness and solid information in brussels, is real. And I think Londown is extremely prone, or desperate, to read much more into German vague statements about business interests. Neither Germany nor the EU can afford to allow you gettign special deals served through the backdoor - it would be an incentive for others to follow your example. And there is not just germany, there is also France, your traditional old rival, and France currently celebrates heydays due to the cause you deliver them for throwing a party.

I expected this, and though that toughness and smartness and courage ciuld nevertheless see Britain through a rapidly employed tough Brexit, a clear cut that leaves business little time to leave the island for the contiennt while it still can. That is why I am so shocked to see the eggdance yur givernment shows up there, time and again. I wuld have exected that form many others - not from Britain. I'm kindnof shockek, really. If you would tell me this is just oike it always is over there in britian, then I woudl take it that I have had terrible illusions abut the nature of British politics. I man it often gets quoted as being an example for one of the world's most professionally organised administration of government politics and services. But maybe I hear just echoes from a distant past there...?

Britain wants to open the much wanted, the desperately wanted second phase of talks, focussing on trade after Brexit. The eU and all sttes have made it clear, that this expectation currently is completely unrealistic. That means that business will start to leave the islands for the continent already from early next year on, while they still can apply for "asylum" on the continent. British economy is heavily dependent on service businesses and banking. Well, have good fun with that exodus - it will be these branches that leave first.

A reenter int the eU after Brexit has been completed and formaised, will need all the years and preparation and negotiation that any foreign state - becasue that si what you then will be - has to run through. Do not expect a highway of golden paved priviliges, you most likely will not get them.

I expected all this hard playing by the EU, you apparently did not. I based my symoathy and support for Brexit on my wish to damage the EU, and my assunption that britain is tough and smart and courgaeous enough to prepare for going it all alone, taking the blows of the firts years that inevtibaly will come,l and then slowly foster again in the years after the difficult start. But now - a dreamdancing on eggs with broken or very thin shells, thats all i see from London's dreamteam. If this is the best your political clowns can show up with then you better cancel Brexit and stick with the EU.

Man, every couple of years I fall into an old pattern and ot a little, just a tiny little bit of faith into some politicians. And always I get immediately penaised for doing that. I realyl shoudl stick to my own rules: never trust in and never expect anything from olticians, no matter who they are. That way I would never get dissapointed.

Poor Brits, I feel sympathy for your misery. But maybe you deserve it, like we deserve the eU. Why don't you just go and drown your politicians in river Thames, instead of letting them ruin your lives? We should do the same with ours.

Jimbuna 11-10-17 07:33 AM

It is being reported that some progress has been made in the negotiations but I notice there are no details set out.

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"Some progress" has been made in the Brexit talks, the EU's Michel Barnier has said, following the latest round of negotiations with the UK in Brussels.
He was speaking after meeting Brexit Secretary David Davis for further talks on citizens' rights, the Irish border, and the UK's "divorce bill".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41941414

Jimbuna 11-10-17 09:16 AM

Never thought I'd see the day Nicola would openly display crticism toward her former mentor.

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Nicola Sturgeon has said she would have advised Alex Salmond against hosting a TV show on Russian state-funded broadcaster RT if she had been asked.
RT has been described as a propaganda tool for Vladimir Putin's government, but Mr Salmond urged viewers to judge for themselves.
Ms Sturgeon said the channel chosen by her predecessor as first minister would not have been her choice.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-41941359

Skybird 11-10-17 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2524468)
It is being reported that some progress has been made in the negotiations but I notice there are no details set out.

Strange thing is in news of German and French papers the same item reads very different: the EU has set up an ultimatum of 2 weeks in which London has to make the demanded concessions to severla key demands regarding Irish borders and tax union, EU budget payments, migration - else the EU will not allow talks on trade beeing opened by the end of the year, as London desperately desires. ;)

Mind you, Jim, all EU meber states have to agree to any final Brexit treaty, and the EU parliament as well. Just one of these, just one voting against it, and the Brexit treaty, however the draft would look like, would be toast.

STEED 11-10-17 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2524468)
It is being reported that some progress has been made in the negotiations but I notice there are no details set out.

How many times we have been down this road then days or weeks later the EU states little to no progress has been made.

STEED 11-11-17 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2524488)
Never thought I'd see the day Nicola would openly display crticism toward her former mentor.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-41941359

There at last is the proof, RT is not left wing. :)

STEED 11-11-17 06:32 AM

And now news from Finland..

Read on..

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Universal Basic Income: Finland shows how salary for all works
A fixed pre-work salary for all will be trialled in the UK soon. Sky News has visited Finland to find out how it is working there.
https://news.sky.com/story/universal...works-11119005

It may work in Finland but here in the UK i don't think so.




Jezzer warming up to next weeks PMQ's

http://i4.mirror.co.uk/incoming/arti...byn-Boxing.jpg

STEED 11-11-17 06:45 AM

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Brexit can be reversed despite Government claims, Article 50 architect Lord Kerr says
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...-a3687256.html


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Brexit can be reversed despite Government claims, the man behind Article 50 has said.

Lord Kerr, the architect behind the document claims the Brits are in danger of being “misled" by Government suggestions that quitting the bloc is set in stone.
Yep up the garden path and bam.:03:

Skybird 11-11-17 06:56 AM

Report from EU parliament says that due to the Brexit Germany will see a 16% rise of its payments to the EU, or an increae by 3.8 billion. This reports also says that France and Italy will get away with proportionally smaller rises.

Jimbuna 11-11-17 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2524492)

Mind you, Jim, all EU meber states have to agree to any final Brexit treaty, and the EU parliament as well. Just one of these, just one voting against it, and the Brexit treaty, however the draft would look like, would be toast.

That is very true but I seriously believe it will be mainly Angela who will direct which way voting will take place.

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2524664)
Report from EU parliament says that due to the Brexit Germany will see a 16% rise of its payments to the EU, or an increae by 3.8 billion. This reports also says that France and Italy will get away with proportionally smaller rises.

Germany to all intents and purposes now runs Europe in my opinion but what France will make of that in the future is anyones guess.

STEED 11-12-17 05:41 AM

Right that's it the Liberals should be locked up for this one..

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The Scottish Liberal Democrats have backed a motion calling for all schools to have gender-neutral uniforms for students.

Jess Insall, 15, told the party conference that allowing girls to wear trousers and boys to wear skirts could result in happier students, better exam results and even better jobs.
She said: "It's a small step forward but it will make a huge difference."
Her call was backed by the party's UK deputy leader, Jo Swinson.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-41947722

No wonder we are in a mess, screw up the kids so in turn when they become adults they will screw up their kids and so on. :doh:






Teflon Tony is back..

This may raise hopes for old jim the spectra of Labour maybe just kept out of outright power in 5 years time.

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Tony Blair: 'Labour should be 20 points ahead in polls'

Former prime minister Tony Blair has said that Labour should be much further ahead in the opinion polls than it is now, suggesting that Jeremy Corbyn isn't capitalising on the problems facing the government,
Mr Blair was speaking to Radio 4's Today programme, as he launched a new report for his Institute for Global Change.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-poli...ahead-in-polls

Jimbuna 11-12-17 09:09 AM

Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe: Jailed woman's husband 'to speak to Boris Johnson'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41956588

I hope he can get some sense out of the clown.


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