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Oberon 07-09-16 05:00 PM

And some thoughts on Leadsom, with picks from her blog:

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics...prime-minister


Fun Fun Fun

Bleiente 07-09-16 05:16 PM

Ihr Britten seid ja total im Arsch - habt keinerlei Reserven und habt ohne Flotte die große Schnauze und könnt nix. :rotfl2:
Habt Ihr noch nicht bemerkt, daß Deutschland die EU regiert... und somit Afrika und halb China. Man kann sich ja gerne weiter aufspielen. :D

Oberon 07-09-16 05:36 PM

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Bleiente 07-09-16 05:41 PM

Huch... man sollte aber auch zielen können. :D

STEED 07-10-16 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Bleiente (Post 2417697)
Ihr Britten seid ja total im Arsch - habt keinerlei Reserven und habt ohne Flotte die große Schnauze und könnt nix. :rotfl2:
Habt Ihr noch nicht bemerkt, daß Deutschland die EU regiert... und somit Afrika und halb China. Man kann sich ja gerne weiter aufspielen. :D

Translation fron here
http://www.worldlingo.com

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Their Britten are total in the ass - have no reserves and have without fleet the large lip and can nix.
You yet did not notice that Germany governs the European Union… and thus Africa and half China. One can up-play oneself gladly further.
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Originally Posted by Bleiente (Post 2417700)
Huch... man sollte aber auch zielen können.

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Huch… in addition, one should be able to aim

STEED 07-10-16 04:27 AM

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Leadsom: Being A Mum Gives Me More Of A Stake
"Leadsom" has without question made a blunder when talking to the press. Granted it was The Times and they are less likely to twist her words out of shape which has resulting in showing she is a junior unlike "May" a senior.

STEED 07-10-16 04:45 AM

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Prescott Says 'Illegal' Iraq War Will Haunt Him
The former deputy prime minister accuses Tony Blair of illegally leading the UK into the Iraq War following the Chilcot report.
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Lord Prescott has condemned Tony Blair's decision to go to war in Iraq, a decision the former deputy PM at the time had supported.
http://news.sky.com/story/prescott-s...t-him-10497349

Don't try that one. :stare:

Catfish 07-10-16 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2417692)
And some thoughts on Leadsom ...

@Steed "unfortunatey she talked to the press"

Well it's her own Internet blog. Delusion is bliss :doh:
Fun only if you take all this as a joke :nope:

Jimbuna 07-10-16 09:47 AM

I can't remember British politics ever being held in such disdain by the electorate before during my lifetime.

What a mess.

MGR1 07-10-16 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2417790)
I can't remember British politics ever being held in such disdain by the electorate before during my lifetime.

What a mess.

Very true.:rock:

In the meantime, here's Brian Taylor on the latest proposals for federalising the UK: LINK.

This is in the wake of Scottish Tory MSP Murdo Fraser advocating fedralism in a speech at Holyrood: LINK. It should be noted that he was Ruth Davidson's rival in the Scottish Tory leadership contest in 2011. He proposed that the Scottish Torries should split from the main Tory Party and set up a distinctively Scottish centre/centre-right party. The membership disagreed with him and voted for Davidson who wanted to keep the status quo.

Scottish Labour have also made similar proposals in the past few days: LINK.

Finally, here's an article from the Guardian on proposals from the Constitution Reform Group, convened by former Conservative cabinet minister Lord Salisbury: LINK.

Could federalism work? Until and unless Scottish independence makes financial sense (currently it doesn't), Scotland won't be going anywhere anytime soon so this problem needs to be addressed.

Mike.:hmmm:

MGR1 07-10-16 10:31 AM

The Guardian again:

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It is easy to despair of our leaders, but Brexit has exposed Britain’s rotten core

Linda Colley.

David Cameron has had a good week. Never mind that he took a gamble with the UK’s future, lost his bet and then opted to retire from what seem likely to be protracted and unpleasant consequences; in media terms he has been able more or less to recede from view. Instead, the spotlight has been on other individuals: on the delicious backstabbing among competing Conservatives, on the struggles between the Corbynistas and their opponents and on Chilcot’s weighty verdict on the failings of an earlier prime minister, Tony Blair. But what if the essence of our present problems is more than a matter of individuals?
It is unlikely to be an accident, for instance, that Blair and Cameron, skilful political players both, each came to grief over matters to do with foreign affairs. This is a sector of government where traditionally prime ministers are given a great deal of leeway. Perhaps too much leeway. Perhaps one lesson of our current difficulties is that Westminster and other UK agencies need to find better ways of monitoring, amending and regulating prime-ministerial actions.......
Rest of article: LINK.

Mike.

MGR1 07-10-16 12:59 PM

Some more general info articles:

Article 50: LINK.

A Northern Irish perspective on Brexit: LINK.

Independence 'opportunity' says 2014 Scottish IndyRef critic Sir Nicholas Macpherson: LINK.

I read MacPherson's article in the FT - I think something has gone very wrong somewhere if Ian Paisley Jr (son of the Rev Ian "NEVER! NEVER! NEVER!" Paisley of DUP fame) has tweeted the recommendation that if your entitled to an Irish Republic passport you should get one.:o

Why Brexit Means Scottish Independence Is Off The Table—For Now by Alex Massie: LINK.

Mike.

Jimbuna 07-10-16 07:19 PM

Meanwhile, down on the ranch...

CONSERVATIVE LEADER ODDS: Andrea Leadsom is now a very good bet to be the next Prime Minister.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/conser...inister-2016-7

Oberon 07-10-16 07:49 PM

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Oberon 07-11-16 06:27 AM

Theresa May is to become the new Prime Minister of the United Kingdom after Leadsom drops out of leadership race.


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