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STEED 03-22-16 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2391669)
I can not move to Windows 10 on my work computer. Can't click that link!

However, when I shut down the power off has the ! stating there are updates to install. The update is Windows 10. :shifty:

They may have you by the...:shifty:

STEED 03-22-16 02:26 PM

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Mystery continues with Microsoft's unidentified patch KB 3103709

http://www.infoworld.com/article/304...b-3103709.html

Got Win8.1 yellow alert.

:hmmm:

HW3 03-22-16 08:29 PM

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Mystery continues with Microsoft's unidentified patch KB 3103709
Microsoft has pulled that update. See post number 7.

http://www.eightforums.com/windows-u...all-these.html

Rockin Robbins 03-23-16 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2391669)
I can not move to Windows 10 on my work computer. Can't click that link!

However, when I shut down the power off has the ! stating there are updates to install. The update is Windows 10. :shifty:

Welcome to the Brave New World. Work computers were supposed to be exempt from forced updates but..... Microsoft.:timeout:

AVGWarhawk 03-23-16 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins (Post 2391943)
Welcome to the Brave New World. Work computers were supposed to be exempt from forced updates but..... Microsoft.:timeout:

The programs I use should work fine with 10. There is one program I know with certainty will not. IT needs to work on that. But yes, we are basically feeling the pressure now to install 10 via MS constant ! when power off.

STEED 03-23-16 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2391954)
The programs I use should work fine with 10. There is one program I know with certainty will not. IT needs to work on that. But yes, we are basically feeling the pressure now to install 10 via MS constant ! when power off.

N0.2
You are a member of the village, You are a unit of sociality. :stare:


The Prisoner (1968)
Episode 16
Once Upon A Time

AVGWarhawk 03-23-16 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED (Post 2392026)
N0.2
You are a member of the village, You are a unit of sociality. :stare:


The Prisoner (1968)
Episode 16
Once Upon A Time


I'm going back to pencil/paper and rotary phone. :D

STEED 03-23-16 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2392028)
I'm going back to pencil/paper and rotary phone. :D

:haha: :)

aanker 03-23-16 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2390600)
Quoted: "And the latest strike by MS against W7 users:
I’ve been reading about people claiming their Windows Updates on Win 7 systems are now taking hours and even days.
I decided to do an experiment.
I’ve just now done a Windows update operation on a Win 7 x64 ....... "

I can verify this. My new Win 7 64 bit SP1 laptop was updated by the vendor. After I got it I thought I'd do an update check. Nothing happened for approx 25 minutes and I shut her down. I tried again on a couple other days with the same result, nothing. There is a long list of installed updates just prior to when I bought it, nothing after, and none of the 'dirty 14' are installed.

I doubt there will be any more Win 7 updates in the future worth installing.

Both of my Win 7 computers have Updates set to manually check... auto updates disabled, the GWX Control Panel Monitor is enabled, and the Microsoft servers are shut down. My computer 'Time' is synced with a different service.

Thanks to this Topic, I'm 'Win 7' happy : )

STEED 03-24-16 09:58 AM

What is that fart smell in the air? Yes it's the come back patch the 11th version of KB3035583...Get Windows 10 installer. Yes the bad fart was expelled from MS's rear end yet again yesterday afternoon. Talk about pressure salesman on your door pointing a gun in your face.

http://www.infoworld.com/article/304...ler-again.html

Rockin Robbins 03-24-16 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED (Post 2392172)
What is that fart smell in the air? Yes it's the come back patch the 11th version of KB3035583...Get Windows 10 installer. Yes the bad fart was expelled from MS's rear end yet again yesterday afternoon. Talk about pressure salesman on your door pointing a gun in your face.

http://www.infoworld.com/article/304...ler-again.html

And think about it. This again demonstrates that Microsoft believes that Windows 10 is so terrible that nobody will voluntarily buy it, even for $0.00. If you don't believe anything we've been saying about how bad it is, for God's sake, pay attention to what Microsoft says through their actions.

Windows 10 is so bad that you have to be forced to take it for free. If they could sell it they would. There would be huge kickoff parties, Internet forums crammed with joyful Microsoft lovers, lines streaming from the doors of stores hours from opening with news crews covering the craziness of Windows 10 mania.......but we have none of that. All we have is a desparate company pointing a gun at us and askng us to pretend we're enjoying the experience. I think they're hoping that Stockholm Syndrome kicks in so we start saying nice things about them.

Not gonna happen from this guy!

All this bizarre thuggery from Microsoft proves that they are a defacto monopoly which needs to be busted up into tiny autonomous pieces so market forces again force them to excellence. It worked for Ma Bell and Microsoft needs a little "tough love."

vienna 03-24-16 05:12 PM

A bit of a heads up regarding a problem I ran into on a tablet running Win 10: the tablet began to run rather lethargically, so I went to the Task Manager to see what was running and observed a high amount of CPU usage from a process called the Windows Shell Experience Host; this process cannot be ended, so I went online to see if there were other reported cases; there apparently is a problem regarding this process and it not only affects overall performance, it also seems to cause problems with some graphics cards; the solution is very simple and all you have to do is go to Settings -> Personalization -> Colors, find the Accent Color switch, and change it to OFF; on the tablet I did this on, the CPU usage dropped to 0%...


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Skybird 03-25-16 07:03 AM

What is freshly angering me is that Microsoft has talked hardware manufacturers into artificially blocking high performance hardware - to be bought in the near future - from being able to run W7 or updating W7 on such machines, even if in principle the hardware/system could run W7 perfectly and is fully compatible. This is to enforce buyers of high end hardware (gamers) to go W10 even if technically they would not need to do that at all.

The lousy quality of Windows 10 updates so far, causing troubles and troubles and then more troubles for millions of users who are unable to avoid these updates since it all is not remote-controlled and enforced from the distance, also is - well, obviously it is not enraging at all. The masses stay silent for the most, and obey. Microsoft gets away with it so far. Most, absolutely most people still reject to turn their back son Microsoft.

I would say they do not deserve anything better then. My sympathy is zero. You get what you are willing to arrange yourself with.

I checked what leaving Windows completely would mean to me. I only launch games under Windows these days, nothing else anymore.
Played games over here these days are The Hunter, ETS2, Fallout 4 (already dying out again, its overplayed for me), Assetto Corsa, Raceroom Racing, sometimes Tennis Ellbow 2013, and then NHL 16, sometimes Golf, sometimes FIFA and NBA 2K. Steel Beasts and Flight Simulator I have not touched in ages.

NHL, NBA and FIFA, not played often anyway), are all PS4. Assetto corsa I will move to console as well in June when it is released, I have all trust in the team when they say they will do the migration without any losses in feeling and realism. ETS2 and Tennis Ellbow also are available for Linux (I think even ArmA is for Linux, I think I read somewhere, its surprising to read that some major titles are on Linux now these days). The loss of Fallout 4 I can live with. I will lose The Hunter and Raceroom, both losses are sad, I play both titles a lot. Still - the losses are somewhat limited. Regarding chess I can get along with what is on Android, for my laid-back needs at least.

No, I do not really need Windows.

For the same reason I may not want to embark on the Oculus any time soon. I would need it only in the racing titles, and if Assetto goes PS4 for me, I would take Sony's goggles.

Rockin Robbins 03-25-16 07:38 AM

Taking inventory for me on any games I play, Silent Hunter 4, check! Borderlands 2, check! Unreal Tournament III, check! Kerbal Space Program, question mark. Counterstrike Source, check! Counterstrike Global Offensive, check! Kayodai Mah Johg, check! Big Jig, check!

I don't need Windows. At all. It's a fine position to be in. It means I can play the Windows game with nothing to lose. Interestingly, Fallout 3 won't run under Windows 7, 8 or 8.1 but will run under Linux! Yuk, yuk, yuk!

Now, similarly to the slimy hardware deals that make new machines not compatible with Windows 7, UEFI is not for customer protection, it's to keep competing operating systems from running on new hardware. Linux already has the fix and I'll bet that fix will be applied to Windows 7 after the fact. And I'll bet Microsloth will sue to keep it from being used. That will open the door to antitrust prosecution and congressional action against Microsloth as a monopoly.

Bring it on! Where's Europe's gumption lately? In the 1990's they carried the torch against Microsloth and its bundling of IE with the operating system. Get back on that horse you on the other side of the pond! Microsoft isn't going to reform itself.

Skybird 03-25-16 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins (Post 2392359)
Bring it on! Where's Europe's gumption lately? In the 1990's they carried the torch against Microsloth and its bundling of IE with the operating system. Get back on that horse you on the other side of the pond! Microsoft isn't going to reform itself.

Government's desire for establishing total surveillance and total vulnerability of citizens in the face of the allmighty state, and Microsoft's desire for total system hijack and customer profiling and dependence, go hand in hand, I fear.

Maybe, not even unlikely, the first have ordered the latter to make W10 the way it is meant to be. I indicated this possibility to Woody once, I saw him agreeing and saying that he also thinks that the US government/NSA most likely has demanded Microsoft to do what it does. Mind you, it is announced NSA policy to enforce the NSA'S ability to get access to every computer device in the world, private smartphone as well as company mainframe.

Reference to be made to the FBI vs. Apple showdown.

P.S.
Unreal, eh? :D I recall my own wild years with the series, since the very first Unreal there has been. I become 50 next year. Maybe I should give it another shot before it is too late. :D

STEED 03-25-16 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins (Post 2392359)
Get back on that horse you on the other side of the pond! Microsoft isn't going to reform itself.

Got any tanks bombers tactical nukes you have laying around the place if so send them my way and I will blow MS off the planet. :)



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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2392366)
I become 50 next year.

Stop giving out your personal info Sky you know they will sell it to someone. :) :03:

STEED 03-25-16 09:46 AM

A friend I know bought a laptop Win8 over a year ago and from day one turned off the updates and has never had a issue. He thinks all these updates are BS and they muck up your OS. :hmmm:

STEED 03-28-16 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by aanker (Post 2392059)
I thought I'd do an update check. Nothing happened for approx 25 minutes and I shut her down. I tried again on a couple other days with the same result, nothing.

I doubt there will be any more Win 7 updates in the future worth installing.

I met up with a friend at the weekend he too is on Win7 and has been unable to do any security updates from MS for the last month. Anyone here can throw some light on this?

STEED 03-29-16 07:23 AM

Sent to Woody.

http://www.askwoody.com/

snippet near the end -

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Microsoft’s clumsy, desperate, visionless push to get PC users to adopt dumbed-down mobile-oriented apps purely for their own commercial benefit; the unrelentingly persistent, unethical, and highly deceptive way they’re trying to trick less tech-savvy Windows 7 and 8.1 users into “upgrading” to Windows 10; and their insistence on reducing user choice and control over Windows have all left a very bad taste in my mouth.

Skybird 03-29-16 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED (Post 2393163)
I met up with a friend at the weekend he too is on Win7 and has been unable to do any security updates from MS for the last month. Anyone here can throw some light on this?

Right there: --> http://www.askwoody.com/2016/the-win...tive-solution/

Cannot claim I understood it really. That private users are expected to gain knowledge of SUCH stuff by now, shows how insane things have become.


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