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The Management

got an iso file lying around...
but eh...
*yawns*

Even if the DRM is removed I will still not buy it. To me it is not even half a sim...even if all the bugs were magically fixed and it ran like butter on a hot knife.

The basic elements of any WW2 submarine simulation have long since been established since Silent Service first appeared in late 1984.

• Full war campaign
• Complete theater of operations (Atlantic and Med for Germans, Pacific for United States)
• Manual and TDC targeting
• All salient submarines (and upgrades) available as they historically appeared during the war.
• Extensive platforms in theater (friendly and enemy...sea and air)
• Historically accurate and functional instrumentation and controls

One would assume things like physics, AI, graphics, unit and weapons modeling, environment, and crew management would be part of the above and as bug free as possible - before release - but that is admittedly (and tragically) wishful thinking.

There is no problem with adding content to enhance the experience and make it more immersive. This is what we all want. But removing the basics alienates prospective customers and that is one of the main issues here. This is my opinion but for me it is also common sense. I don't understand why Ubisoft chose to go sideways and backwards with SH5.

Wonder why some people feel the urge to inform us that they will not buy the game.. and they even spend a lot of their life time to do that. Weird..

I guess for the same reason someone felt the need to come to Subsim.com and start a thread about not buying a Subsim, instead of going to letskillaasubsim.com to do it.

Like Neal said... SH5: released too soon, killed by the "fans".

JCC

I agree. Almost sub-human. :DL

Is there a subliminal conspiracy here to get me to eat a submarine sandwich? :huh::hmm2:

As long as it isn't sub-par I'll split it with you. :DL

Why do you all keep engageing in subturfuge?
:-?
Why don't you just submite the fact that
your subjugating us all to your
subjective opinions?
:D

Because, we would rather reject your reality and substitute our own.

The subject of a sub par subsim is highly subspicious in nature and mostly unsubstantiated. :smug:

You don't really subscribe to that line of reasoning.
Do you?
:haha:

Of course I do, because that line of reasoning is above being subjected to scrutiny.:haha:

Could you substantiate that position?
:shucks:

If it came right down to it, yes, I could substantially substantiate my claim that other's scrutiny is sub par compared to what would be needed to subjugate that line of substantial reason. Whoa, that statement had so much substance I almost went subconscious just saying it.:arrgh!: