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Democratic Unionist Party sources have urged the Conservatives to give a "greater focus" to negotiations between the parties.
A senior DUP source said the party could not be "taken for granted" - adding that if the PM could not reach a deal, "what does that mean for bigger negotiations she is involved in?"
The Conservatives are hoping the DUP will sustain their minority government.
But no deal has been reached after 10 days of talks between the parties.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40339330

Jimbuna

06-20-17 11:12 AM

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Jobs and living standards must come first as the UK negotiates its exit from the EU, Philip Hammond has said.
The chancellor said it would require "every ounce of skill and diplomacy" to get the right deal, warning that people didn't vote for Brexit to be poorer.
Speaking in London, he said changes to customs arrangements should be phased in and there should be transitional measures to protect key industries.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40339331

This guy is currently making more sense than the PM.

MGR1	06-20-17 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED (Post 2493159)

Wee Nicola seems to be less in the news after her set back in the GE.

That's due to the national news having other things to report on. Within Scotland we've always heard a lot more. As the SNP form the devolved administration and Sturgeon is the First Minister that's to be expected.

On the political front, this is some of what's been going on north of the border:

Independent commission sets out 75 Holyrood reforms

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An independent review of the Scottish Parliament has set out more than 70 recommendations for improvements.
The Commission for Parliamentary Reform was set up in October 2016, tasked with giving Holyrood "an MOT".
Suggestions include having committees with elected conveners which can sit at the same time as the main chamber and expanding the legislative process.
Chairman John McCormick said the changes suggested would equip Holyrood to meet future challenges "head on"

'Historic' islands bill published

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The Scottish government has introduced what it has described as a "historic bill" to create a sustainable future for Scotland's islands.
The proposed legislation aims to offer greater powers to island local authorities, including the Western Isles, Orkney and Shetland.
The bill includes giving island councils powers over activities on and around their coastlines.

Changes to named person law published

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The Scottish government has published changes to its controversial named person scheme.
The scheme will appoint a named person, usually a teacher or health visitor, who will be responsible for ensuring the welfare of every child.
It had been due to come into force last August, but the Supreme Court ruled that sections covering information sharing did not comply with the law.
The changes published on Tuesday aim to overcome those concerns.

etc, etc, etc.

Mike.

STEED

06-20-17 06:35 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Dpt-dSFwzc

Catfish

06-21-17 04:16 AM

^ you people are obsessed with Hitler, i tell you!

But then :rotfl2::rotfl2:

Jimbuna

06-21-17 07:54 AM

Queen's Speech: Brexit bills dominate government agenda.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40345280

ikalugin

06-21-17 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2493411)

^ you people are obsessed with Hitler, i tell you!

But then :rotfl2::rotfl2:

True, Stalin had a vastly superior moustage:

STEED

06-21-17 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2493411)

^ you people are obsessed with Hitler, i tell you!

But then :rotfl2::rotfl2:

Some funny folk out there do some real corkers. :03:

STEED

06-21-17 09:36 AM

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DUP seeks £2bn deal to support Conservatives

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-norther...itics-40347632

Bet there is more to come. :hmmm:

Jimbuna

06-21-17 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED (Post 2493512)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-norther...itics-40347632

Bet there is more to come. :hmmm:

I doubt they will get anywhere near as much as they are asking for....too many third parties would jump on the bandwagon or cry foul (I doubt I need to name them).

Dropping the proposals to axe the winter fuel allowance for well-off pensioners and scrap the triple lock on pensions will be sufficient for little selfish me :smug:

STEED

06-21-17 06:25 PM

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The Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) has played down reports it is seeking £2bn in extra funding for Northern Ireland in return for supporting the Tories.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-40360060

The plot thickens. :hmmm:

STEED

06-22-17 07:01 AM

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Around 600 high rises across England are using similar cladding to Grenfell Tower, says Downing Street.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40366646

Old JC will make hay with this by pouring it on to May who has so much on her plate with the DUP and Brexit.

Mind you the DUP problem maybe at last light in the tunnel..

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There is a "very good" chance the Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) and Conservatives will agree a parliamentary deal by next week, a DUP MP has said.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-40362475

Catfish

06-22-17 07:06 AM

^ Regarding the cladding, can a government be held responsible for all that happens, in a country?
I guess not.. but how are certain standards (like house-building) being settled, or enforced? :hmmm:

Jimbuna

06-22-17 07:56 AM

Gentlemen, if you please, we already have a thread dedicated to Grenfell Tower:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...12#post2493812

Jimbuna

06-22-17 07:57 AM

Back On Topic:

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European Council president Donald Tusk has quoted lyrics from John Lennon's Imagine to suggest the door remains open to the UK staying in the EU.
Ahead of a Brussels summit he said of the prospect: "You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40362594

You just couldn't make this up :hmmm:

Catfish

06-22-17 08:13 AM

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... to suggest the door remains open to the UK staying in the EU.

:haha: Too late.
I thought this EU summit isn't about brexit? Seems i was wrong:
http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/me...2017/06/22-23/

ok so no brexit negotiations, but what to do about relocations of yet UK-based EU agencies.

STEED

06-22-17 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2493814)

Gentlemen, if you please, we already have a thread dedicated to Grenfell Tower:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...12#post2493812

Yes Boss, pot noodle is in the post. :DL

STEED

06-22-17 05:46 PM

I am not convinced at all, I smell a rat called May..:ping:

Skybird

06-23-17 03:11 AM

As predicted, the first crahs has already happened, and nobody noticed it. May offered that EU citizens can stay in the UK and ask for citizenship if they lived there for five years already. One can certainly talk about the date from when on the count should start: May says the day when the letter for Brexit was sent, the EU wants the day when Brexit will be finally sealed.

But unacceptable from British perspective is that the Court of Justice in Luxembourgh should be the court guarding over this - to-be - right of EU foreigners in the UK. The Court of Justice is an entity of the EU and was created to especially watch over the EU treaties . That such a foreign court should also be authorizd now to watch over internal affairs of a to-be non memberstate, is a ridiculing of the British demand for claiming back national sovereignty.

London must fear that the EU uses this to create a precedence for other issues in the future when then the EU will claim this precedence to demand authority of the Luxembourgh court again.

If I were to represent the British side, I would be adamant over this so that already now the negotiations could be declared as failed, and could be ended, if the EU does not give up. That is true for the other two red lines the EU already has demanded in the past weeks as well - they all in principle are a denial of the end of British membership, and accept only the end of British rights, not its membership duties.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court_...European_Union

That the EU already some time ago said that they see this as one of their red lines and claim the EU court should be responsible for parts of British legislation, shows that they have not understood that Brexit means Brexit: end of EU membership.

Question always is how hard a Brexit May still can sell in parliament. The bRitish side has weakened itself tremendously with those election results.

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