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donna52522 04-20-13 10:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WernherVonTrapp (Post 2044475)
You're right, if he's charged, sentenced and committed Federally.
He won't have a room mate, whether he is convicted in State or in the Federal courts. In either case he has the right to seek Protective Custody. Otherwise known as PC......PC can also be forced upon him for his own safety. In such a high profile case they will not throw him into a prisons General Population, and they may even put him under a suicide watch.

Hey, I was a para legal once. Then I found out I could make more money with less tears.

geetrue 04-20-13 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Armistead (Post 2044556)
Not only that, the man they kidnapped stated they were laughing and bragging about what they did, including killing the cop. Really lucky for him they let him go.
I had not heard this story yet ...
shines light on their real personalities in all of this.

Does anyone have the missing clue of how the two brothers got to the MIT campus with all of the guns,
explosives and equipment they were acounted to have pocessed?

We can safely assume that they knew the authorities were looking for both of them by now. Did they leave their car behind?

Nothing in the news about leaving a car behind?

Tells us something about being dropped off perhaps and if they were dropped off how did they intend to leave MIT?



Here's a published time line: http://www.ktvb.com/news/VIDEO-Shoot...203759931.html
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    1. At 5:10 p.m. Thursday, investigators of the bombings release photographs and video of two suspects. They ask for the public's help in identifying the men.
    2. Around 10:20 p.m., shots are fired on the campus of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in Cambridge, just outside Boston.
    3. At 10:30 p.m., an MIT campus police officer who was responding to a disturbance is found shot multiple times in his vehicle, apparently in a confrontation with the Boston Marathon bombing suspects. He is later pronounced dead.

      -- Shortly afterward, two armed men reportedly carjack a Mercedes SUV in Cambridge. A man who was in the vehicle is held for about a half hour and then released unharmed at a gas station on Memorial Drive in Cambridge.

      -- Police soon pursue the carjacked vehicle in Watertown, just west of Cambridge.

      -- Some kind of explosive devices are thrown from the vehicle in an apparent attempt to stop police. The carjackers and police exchange gunfire. A transit police officer is seriously injured. One suspect, later identified as Suspect No. 1 in the marathon bombings, is critically injured and later pronounced dead.
Two and half hours go by (2 and 1/2 hours is a long time)


Quote:
Around 1 a.m. Friday, gunshots and explosions are heard in Watertown, just outside Boston.
Dozens of police officers and FBI agents converge on a Watertown neighborhood.
A helicopter circles overhead.
Never mind I found it: it was the next day (morning that they found it)

Quote:
Around 10:20 a.m., Connecticut State Police say a gray Honda CRV believed to be linked to Dzhokhar Tsarnaev has been recovered in Boston.
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Around 11:30 a.m., Massachusetts State Police explain that the brothers suspected in the bombings were in the Honda CRV when they carjacked the Mercedes SUV. For a while, each drove one of the two vehicles, but then ditched the Honda and reunited in the Mercedes.

donna52522 04-20-13 11:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by geetrue (Post 2044561)
I had not heard this story yet ...
shines light on their real personalities in all of this.

Does anyone have the missing clue of how the two brothers got to the MIT campus with all of the guns,
explosives and equipment they were acounted to have pocessed?

We can safely assume that they knew the authorities were looking for both of them by now. Did they leave their car behind?

Nothing in the news about leaving a car behind?

Tells us something about being dropped off perhaps and if they were dropped off how did they intend to leave MIT?



Here's a published time line: http://www.ktvb.com/news/VIDEO-Shoot...203759931.html
Two and half hours go by (2 and 1/2 hours is a long time)




Never mind I found it: it was the next day (morning that they found it)
I am not sure where you are from, but a college campus isn't exactly a lock down facility. When I was like 15 or 16 years old I watched as people rolled kegs of beer out of the backs of pick-up trucks and into the dorm rooms. If you can smuggle a keg onto a college campus, then you can certainly get a gun there.

Grow up.

Btw...good times, good times.

Jimbuna 04-21-13 07:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Armistead (Post 2044556)
Not only that, the man they kidnapped stated they were laughing and bragging about what they did, including killing the cop. Really lucky for him they let him go.
Well I doubt he'll be doing much laughing and joking now.

Stealhead 04-21-13 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by eddie (Post 2044555)
This hack or Russian puppet knows why this event happended in Boston. Would love to meet him and set him straight,lol

http://news.msn.com/world/pro-moscow...oston-bombings

Yeah says the dope on a rope that lives in a nation where you must get permission from the government to print anything and the government must also approve what any news network says.

mapuc 04-21-13 12:59 PM
I think I have a clue on why they made this terror bombing.

Late evening before yesterday, right after the youngest one was in custody, I heard on a radio show that the eldest of them, had been interrogated by the FBI by request by the Russians.

It was then, that I thought....could it be that it was because of that, a little seeds of hate against USA started to grow.

You have to understand that the Chechen HATE the Russians and when the FBI toke the elder brother into interrogation, maybe he saw USA as a friend of Russia

Just at thought.

Markus

Vince82 04-21-13 01:03 PM
He's a muslim extremist. And he can't talk because of a bullet that went trough his neck. Priceless I would say. Especially if he tried to commit suicide, but was doing it wrong.

Stealhead 04-21-13 03:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2044778)
I think I have a clue on why they made this terror bombing.

Late evening before yesterday, right after the youngest one was in custody, I heard on a radio show that the eldest of them, had been interrogated by the FBI by request by the Russians.

It was then, that I thought....could it be that it was because of that, a little seeds of hate against USA started to grow.

You have to understand that the Chechen HATE the Russians and when the FBI toke the elder brother into interrogation, maybe he saw USA as a friend of Russia

Just at thought.

Markus
Well the thing you must consider is that the FSB are only concerned about protecting the Russian government.The FBI says that they did question Tamerlan Tsarnaev but only using the information that the FSB gave them.The FSB did not tell the FBI everything that they may have known about Tsarnaev so in the end the blame can be laid at the FSB because they did not give the FBI enough information required by US law further observe Tsarnaev.

You have also understand that the FSB also pursues any Russian whom under us law is not a criminal and that the FSB is a likely candidate to supply false information as well.In short the FSB is very untrustworthy.

It possible as you say that entire incident may have made him have hatred for the US government.The thing that will never be known is what was the FSB interest in Tsarnaev of course now the FSB can easily say what ever they want to make the FBI look bad.

mapuc 04-21-13 03:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stealhead (Post 2044814)
Well the thing you must consider is that the FSB are only concerned about protecting the Russian government.The FBI says that they did question Tamerlan Tsarnaev but only using the information that the FSB gave them.The FSB did not tell the FBI everything that they may have known about Tsarnaev so in the end the blame can be laid at the FSB because they did not give the FBI enough information required by US law further observe Tsarnaev.

You have also understand that the FSB also pursues any Russian whom under us law is not a criminal and that the FSB is a likely candidate to supply false information as well.In short the FSB is very untrustworthy.

It possible as you say that entire incident may have made him have hatred for the US government.The thing that will never be known is what was the FSB interest in Tsarnaev of course now the FSB can easily say what ever they want to make the FBI look bad.
I can only say what they said on that radioshow that FBI toke him in for a "small talk" and maybe it was after that he started to hate USA.. As I said, just a thought.

Markus

nikimcbee 04-21-13 04:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stealhead (Post 2044814)
Well the thing you must consider is that the FSB are only concerned about protecting the Russian government.The FBI says that they did question Tamerlan Tsarnaev but only using the information that the FSB gave them.The FSB did not tell the FBI everything that they may have known about Tsarnaev so in the end the blame can be laid at the FSB because they did not give the FBI enough information required by US law further observe Tsarnaev.

You have also understand that the FSB also pursues any Russian whom under us law is not a criminal and that the FSB is a likely candidate to supply false information as well.In short the FSB is very untrustworthy.

It possible as you say that entire incident may have made him have hatred for the US government.The thing that will never be known is what was the FSB interest in Tsarnaev of course now the FSB can easily say what ever they want to make the FBI look bad.
Yeah, too bad Putin/FSB aren't trustworthy. I bet they'd love to talk to him.:hmmm:

Stealhead 04-21-13 05:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2044826)
I can only say what they said on that radioshow that FBI toke him in for a "small talk" and maybe it was after that he started to hate USA.. As I said, just a thought.

Markus

I agree with your thought it is possible that he disliked this event and I also said this in my previous post you must have missed that part. I will re post it again so you can see it please in the future read posts in their entirety and take time to digest what was said before making a response.


From post number 448 last sentence;
"It possible as you say that entire incident may have made him have hatred for the US government.The thing that will never be known is what was the FSB interest in Tsarnaev of course now the FSB can easily say what ever they want to make the FBI look bad."



I am just getting a little annoyed at the media and their constant speculation.Not at what you said.

The FSB is highly untrustworthy and I would not put it past them not to inform the US about a serious threat.I think what they did is provide information enough for the FBI to be courteous and talk to Tsaranev.


I can easily see the FSB if they really had a concern they would have spoken to Tsaranev in the US without even telling the FBI or anyone else.I can also see the FSB not even saying if they had information at the time that Tsaranev was a threat directly to the US.

WernherVonTrapp 04-21-13 05:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by donna52522 (Post 2044557)
He won't have a room mate, whether he is convicted in State or in the Federal courts. In either case he has the right to seek Protective Custody. Otherwise known as PC......PC can also be forced upon him for his own safety. In such a high profile case they will not throw him into a prisons General Population, and they may even put him under a suicide watch.

Hey, I was a para legal once. Then I found out I could make more money with less tears.
That's not necessarily true. Besides, it's not the cellmate who he'll need protection from. It's the general population during meals, showers, exercise or other free time. I doubt anyone would consider it "humane treatment" (be it by State request or his own) that he serves a life sentence of solitary confinement.

mapuc 04-21-13 06:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stealhead (Post 2044870)
I agree with your thought it is possible that he disliked this event and I also said this in my previous post you must have missed that part. I will re post it again so you can see it please in the future read posts in their entirety and take time to digest what was said before making a response.


From post number 448 last sentence;
"It possible as you say that entire incident may have made him have hatred for the US government.The thing that will never be known is what was the FSB interest in Tsarnaev of course now the FSB can easily say what ever they want to make the FBI look bad."




I am just getting a little annoyed at the media and their constant speculation.Not at what you said.

The FSB is highly untrustworthy and I would not put it past them not to inform the US about a serious threat.I think what they did is provide information enough for the FBI to be courteous and talk to Tsaranev.


I can easily see the FSB if they really had a concern they would have spoken to Tsaranev in the US without even telling the FBI or anyone else.I can also see the FSB not even saying if they had information at the time that Tsaranev was a threat directly to the US.
I'm terrible sorry :oops: I should have read your entire post, before I wrote mine. I hope that I will remember to read a comment throughly before answering it in the future.

Markus

Stealhead 04-21-13 07:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2044902)
I'm terrible sorry :oops: I should have read your entire post, before I wrote mine. I hope that I will remember to read a comment throughly before answering it in the future.

Markus

Don't worry about it everyone does it from time to time.

Bilge_Rat 04-21-13 08:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stealhead (Post 2044814)
Well the thing you must consider is that the FSB are only concerned about protecting the Russian government.The FBI says that they did question Tamerlan Tsarnaev but only using the information that the FSB gave them.The FSB did not tell the FBI everything that they may have known about Tsarnaev so in the end the blame can be laid at the FSB because they did not give the FBI enough information required by US law further observe Tsarnaev.

You have also understand that the FSB also pursues any Russian whom under us law is not a criminal and that the FSB is a likely candidate to supply false information as well.In short the FSB is very untrustworthy.

It possible as you say that entire incident may have made him have hatred for the US government.The thing that will never be known is what was the FSB interest in Tsarnaev of course now the FSB can easily say what ever they want
to make the FBI look bad.
its a bit early to be blaming the Russians. It is true that the FBI receives lots of tips, but no one will be able to say whether the FBI screwed up or not until all the facts are out.


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