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keltos01 12-21-09 07:01 AM

New subs
 
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/6007/pdvd190ct5.jpg


http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/4383/3ds.jpg

top :

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/2333/topsh.jpg


Miner1436 made us some subs, clones of the JB as they were in RL but with weaker engines etc.., those will be the Jyunsen B2 and B3. :)

Then, on a request on my part, and this is (I-10) the boat seen in the movie Gochin during I-10's 5th war patrol in the IO, I asked for the Type A1 submarine (same here a clone of it would get us the Type A2 submarine).

Miner made a very nice tower out of the JB's, but as always, I had to modify it a bit...

I made a box the exact size of the boat, applied the blueprint to it, and resized some parts of the A1's tower.

I already wanna try this boat :yep:

Then there's the I-52, a C3 class submarine that Miner exchanged for a few of his boats, that one will be implemented too.

keltos

keltos01 12-21-09 08:27 AM

Typa A1 WIP
 
I had to resize a bit the hull according to my blueprint, and move the foredeck up a bit :

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/3474/i9whole.jpg


here's the new tower with AA nest :

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/1848/61356912.jpg

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/4290/towera1b.jpg



http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/3220/towera1.jpg

Original mesh : JB
first modifications on the Tower : Miner1436
other modifications on hull and tower according to blueprints : Keltos

still not sure about the lower back tub housing the telemeter, some blueprints show a one piece tub like the Jyunsen B, and the above one two tubs, one slightly lower. The very few RL pictures I have don't help in that matter.


keltos

keltos01 12-21-09 10:51 AM

reworked the whole of the tower because RL pictures don't show a lower rear tub but only one, and it's a precursor/contemporary design to that of the Jyunsen B:

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/219/moda1tower.jpg


keltos

keltos01 12-21-09 05:30 PM

I-52
 
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/29/i52m.jpg



different objects linked in a SH4 way :

tower
tower cables
DG
planes
rudder
hull

keltos

miner1436 12-21-09 09:23 PM

IJN subs in color:

Looks like the type D1:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCKB2...eature=related

I-400 class:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYjc_...eature=related

And I dont know if it is accurate but this video has 3D I-25 interiors: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqdQN...eature=related

keltos01 12-22-09 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miner1436 (Post 1223108)
IJN subs in color:

Looks like the type D1:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCKB2...eature=related

I-400 class:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYjc_...eature=related

And I dont know if it is accurate but this video has 3D I-25 interiors: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqdQN...eature=related

WOW miner ! this is Xmas !!!

keltos

keltos01 12-22-09 11:05 AM

Roaring Tiger : see previous thread for links

originally found by Miner1436

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/131...lemcloseup.jpg

So they had emblems too !!!! :D:D


SEE PREVIOUS POST FOR LINKS

keltos

keltos01 12-23-09 11:01 AM

IJN submarine type A1
 
IJN submarine type A1 wip

a new sub is coming our way : I-10 the one submarine seen in Gochin

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/5120/typea1.jpg


http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/5120/typea1.jpg

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5997/typea1tower.jpg

http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/1018/typea1aa.jpg

i also increased the B2 torpedo load to 18 torpedoes and 19 on the B3 and A1 as per RL


keltos

keltos01 12-24-09 05:40 AM

I-52 model
 
this is the model miner1436 exchanged some of his own models for, the I-52 C3 class IJN submarine.

It is made of 69000 poly. S3D wouldn't import that many so I took a look at the model and noticed there were no elements linking the triangles..

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/5...ticescount.jpg


VERTICES COUNT REDUCED BY 50% thanks to Peabody's info

I was then able to import the tower in S3D :

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/844...escounts3d.jpg


the problem are the flipped faces... where in a normal model where say the outside of the tub is one element composed of different faces (any of which can be "flipped" during transfer, thus showing the transparent side instead of the texture side), here the model is a bunch of triangles with no elements linking some of them :

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/158...counttower.jpg


as you can see (I imported it in the A1 tower for the example) to the right is my simple AA nest model, to the left is the broken glass type I-52 tower model... LOTS of flipped faces there..

but it is imported... :-/

keltos

keltos01 12-26-09 02:49 AM

Type KD7
 
Type KD7

Units 10 (none survived)
Ships I-176, I-177, I-178, I-179, I-180, I-181, I-182, I-183, I-184, and I-185.
Year(s) Completed 1942-1943
Displacement 1,833 tons / 2,602 tons
Dimensions 346 ft x 27 ft x 15 ft
Machinery 2 diesels: 8,000 hp

electric motors: 1,800 hp
Speed 23 knots / 8 knots
Range 8,000 nm @ 16 knots
Armament 6x533mm TT fwd (none aft) + 1x12cm/50 cal. (12 Torpedoes)
Max. Depth 80 m (265 feet)
Crew 86 officers and men

keltos01 12-26-09 03:10 AM

I-10 Type A1 submarine
 
I-10 Type A1 submarine :


http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/9776/tiger1h.jpg

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/3918/tigerg.jpg


tiger emblem

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/7620/i10typea1b.jpg

Showa 17 (1942) April
I-10 shown departing Penang near Singapore

this is a photo scan at half the resolution, I have a better one at home Miner ! look at the vertical fins on either side of the DG aft of the tower : very similar to the Jyunsen B, this boat reaaly was her precursor !
I hope we are now settled about the tower shape : no rear platform sitting lower and behind the tub to house the telemeter : all in one tub, as for the JB.

but : the hangar sits too low on my tower model and the AA fore tub should be nearly underneath the tower windows.

Merry Xmas to all !

keltos

keltos01 12-27-09 03:30 AM

reworked (again) A1 tower
 
reworked (again) A1 tower

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/2047/a1towertop.jpg


http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/2825/towera13d.jpg


http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/4...wera1right.jpg

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/8616/towerijnsuba1.jpg

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/570...rijnsuba1h.jpg

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/5997/typea1tower.jpg



I reset the box with the new scanned image of the blueprint, and I imported a captain for size comparison

keltos

keltos01 12-27-09 03:52 AM

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/7620/i10typea1b.jpg http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/i10...pg/1/w1476.png
http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/6237/i10typea12.jpg


http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/1018/typea1aa.jpghttp://img121.imageshack.us/img121/9058/typea1aa2.jpg


http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/3156/i10typea13.jpg


keltos

keltos01 12-27-09 05:23 AM

New Type A1 tower (I-10)
 
New Type A1 tower (I-10)

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/5162/a1tower.jpg


http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/4853/a1towersh4.jpg


there.

keltos

skwasjer 12-27-09 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keltos01 (Post 1224682)
as you can see (I imported it in the A1 tower for the example) to the right is my simple AA nest model, to the left is the broken glass type I-52 tower model... LOTS of flipped faces there..

but it is imported... :-/

keltos

fwiw, as I am not sure if you solved it already but this happens when winding order of faces is flipped.

F.ex. a face is stored in OBJ in 1-2-3 order (vertex 1, vertex 2, vertex 3), and imported with S3D as 1-2-3. You can correct this by ticking the reverse face winding option upon import in S3D (or a similar option in your 3D studio it's OBJ exporter). Then, S3D will flip the face and read it as 3-2-1...

keltos01 12-27-09 04:57 PM

Jyunsen B2, B3, Type A1 and Type C3 all set to RL characteristics

A1 loadout :

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/4461/a1loadout.jpg

http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/2...oadoutguns.jpg


keltos

keltos01 12-27-09 05:29 PM

IJN Type A1 submarine in Penang :

http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/9655/a1penang.jpg

http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/4461/a1loadout.jpg

keltos

keltos01 12-27-09 05:45 PM

flank speed trouble :

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/9810/flank.jpg

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/4461/a1loadout.jpg


?????

keltos

keltos01 12-27-09 06:11 PM

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/9755/a1loadoutq.jpg

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5120/typea1.jpg

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/4461/a1loadout.jpg

keltos

keltos01 12-28-09 03:43 AM

re-worked AA nest :

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/8995/aabest.jpg

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/5162/a1tower.jpg

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/7503/ijna1tower.jpg


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