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Buddahaid 04-20-13 03:39 PM

Maybe isolation isn't hard enough. :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag1EbxYKh_4

Méo 04-20-13 03:40 PM

Just give him high doses of decadron for few days or weeks.

He's gonna be on his knees and will do anything for this to stop.

Platapus 04-20-13 03:46 PM

Here is another drawing

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/image...cell_2_464.gif

1. Window - partially blocked to leave only a view of the sky
2. Shower - water on a timer switch to prevent flooding
3. Fixed concrete stool and writing desk
4. Combined toilet, sink and water fountain unit
5. Polished steel mirror


But it should be noted that there are several different types of cells and different levels of confinement largely dependent on the inmate's conduct.


While there are some lifers who will never see the light of day, the average stay at ADX is 3.18 years before being transferred back to "normal" maximum security prisons. This number is disputed and other studies have indicated that the average stay at ADX is 8.2 years.



http://solitarywatch.com/2012/10/06/...permax-prison/


The difference is because ADX has what is called a "three year program" where well behaved inmates (with few exceptions) are allowed, after 3 years to transfer to other programs/levels of confinement at the same facility with the goal of eventually to transfer to other facilities. So it may take an inmate 3.18 years to get out of Z-block and another 5 years to get transferred to an other facility.

Platapus 04-20-13 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swamprat69er (Post 2044428)
Mass. doesn't have a death penalty. But there are other states that do. I don't think that he would get a fair trial in Mass.


Why do you think that?

Unless the media taints the jury pool that is.

Oberon 04-20-13 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 2044438)
Why do you think that?

Unless the media taints the jury pool that is.

Like I said earlier, this is a crime that's been broadcast across the whole of America, where on earth are they going to find an impartial jury? :hmmm:

mapuc 04-20-13 03:52 PM

According to the Swedish newspaper, aftonbladet.se

He wasn't given the Miranda warnings(they did not read his rights) under his arrest and because of this it is not given if he will get the penalties

I have been trying to use google translate, but that translate doens't work at all.
(maybe one day in the near future it will work, the translate)

Markus

eddie 04-20-13 03:55 PM

Actual photos of a cell.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...pse5a44646.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...psb2df0ed3.jpg

Tribesman 04-20-13 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armistead (Post 2044364)
Obvious it's legal. Label him a murderer, give him a lawyer, a long trial to spew his gargage, chancing a jury system and some liberal pansy feeling sorry for him.

Make him a combatant, a military court, a quick execution and dump his ashes in the sea and be done with him.

Well the first bit is straight from planet yubba, the second bit shows that you havn't a clue what it is you want.
So why do you hate America and why are you so desperate to help the terrorists?

Platapus 04-20-13 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2044439)
Like I said earlier, this is a crime that's been broadcast across the whole of America, where on earth are they going to find an impartial jury? :hmmm:

But I think you are missing the point about impartiality.

It is not about finding a jury who is impartial about the crime. It is about finding a jury who is impartial about the defendant.

It is about not having preconceptions or biases about the innocence or guilt of the defendant; not how the jury feels about the crime itself.

You can be extremely emotional and biased about the crime itself and still be impartial about the defendant. It happens all the time.

There is a difference between the crime and the person accused of the crime.... at least there should be.

What we want to avoid is the media "convicting" the defendant before the trial or getting a jury who thinks that "well since he is accused of the crime, he must be guilty". (Edwin Meese likes that)

Hence my comment about conflicting constitutional rights.

Take yourself. Do you think you would be unable to be impartial about the defendant based on your feelings of the crime he will be accused of?

eddie 04-20-13 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2044440)
According to the Swedish newspaper, aftonbladet.se

He wasn't given the Miranda warnings(they did not read his rights) under his arrest and because of this it is not given if he will get the penalties

I have been trying to use google translate, but that translate doens't work at all.
(maybe one day in the near future it will work, the translate)

Markus

This is why they didn't have to read him his rights for now.

"U.S. officials said a special interrogation team for high-value suspects would question him without reading him his Miranda rights, under a public safety exception that exists to protect police and the public from immediate danger. Miranda rights include the right to remain silent and the right to have a lawyer."

swamprat69er 04-20-13 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2044439)
Like I said earlier, this is a crime that's been broadcast across the whole of America, where on earth are they going to find an impartial jury? :hmmm:

Who in U.S. of A. really cares whether or not he gets a 'fair' trial. Give him the same trail he gave the 8 yr. old kid who just wanted to give his Dad a hug, the same trial he gave the MIT cop. That is all he deserves.

Tribesman 04-20-13 04:17 PM

Quote:

Who in U.S. of A. really cares whether or not he gets a 'fair' trial.
That would be anyone in the U.S. of A. who believes in the rule of law and the constitution.

Platapus 04-20-13 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddie (Post 2044442)
Actual photos of a cell.

Awesome find. I am surprised there are photographs of the actual cells.

Platapus 04-20-13 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swamprat69er (Post 2044450)
Who in U.S. of A. really cares whether or not he gets a 'fair' trial. Give him the same trail he gave the 8 yr. old kid who just wanted to give his Dad a hug, the same trial he gave the MIT cop. That is all he deserves.

I do hope you are joking.

*I* care that he gets a fair trial.

While we have strayed in the past decade, I still feel that we are a nation of laws.

donna52522 04-20-13 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2044328)
I've obviously no idea with being British but didn't a police officer from MIT get murdered?

I am not sure if a Police officer is the same as a college police officer...I have been told and heard (though it maybe wrong) that college cops are not even allowed to carry side arms. They are not full fledged Police.


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