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Keep it up, Gap and other hard workers :D! I didn't realise that I have real work (much easier than modding work) on weekend, so my flag.dat will delay a bit, but if I understood correctly, Zedi, you don't need it that bad now.
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Another Issue :nope:
Sweden was officially neutral during the whole conflict. Though its merchants were found very often Allied convoys. This is a fact that had been discussed before. What I didn't know is that by the end of WWII 89 of its ships were sunk or damaged by german uboats. This is something that we cannot ignore in game, as it seems that Swedish merchants were considered as "valid targets" by Kriegsmarine. I see two soultions: - we leave Sweden as neutral (its ports will be shown as grey in the strategic map), and we add in the roster a Free Swedish Fleet entry on the Allied side (only merchants). Possible side effect is that Allied Swedish merchants could have problems entering in the Neutral Swedish ports :hmmm: - we leave just one antry for Sweden, but we switch them from neutral to Allied. Side effects are that its port would be shown as red in the map, and Swedish Navy ships would attack Axis units in range, including our submarine... Any ideas? |
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For the info Gap - Zedi has been working on the traffic (single and coastal ships) so he can answer your question better. I am going to review stock set convoys (per campaign + date) to make them more fitting for size, escort number etc. i am getting al this info from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Battle_of_the_Atlantic_(1939-1945)). The handy thing for me would be a spreadsheet of the defside by country. Quote:
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I'll see what I can do about the spreadsheet that you're suggesting. Shouldn't be too difficult though :salute: As for the sweedish issue I'll use my first option (two entries, 1 neutral, 1 allied) unless someone elese got a better idea... |
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Swedish ships were attacked only when be in allied convoy. So single ship = neutreal Sweden, in convoy = allied side (Allied Sweden?) |
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if you check the "Ships hit by U-boats" section of uboat.net (http://www.uboat.net/allies/merchants/), you will notice that many unescorted Swedish ships were sunk by U-boats. I concur with you that the first option could be better (it is the one I'm using for my settings just now), though our method for recognizing allied Swedish ships should be more or less: - Swedish merchans in escorted/mixed convoys = Allied - Single Swedish merchant in route from/to English waters putting in place evasive manoeuvres = Allied - Single Swedish merchant keeping her speed/route when our submarine is in sight = Allied implementing this method would require a fine balance when setting the new campaign traffic. What do you think about it Zedi? yesterday you kept silent all the day long... By the way, my work on DefSide is finished. I've only to redo the numbering, as numbers got scrambled after I added/removed entries. I will send it to you in a matter of 30 minutes or so. I'm sorry for the delay, but yesterday I had to check again the nations in the roster one by one. I wanted to see when their vessels started to be hunted by U-boats. By doing so I ascertained that many of them started to be considered valid targets when they were still neutral, similar to Sweden. In order to make them available targets also in game, I had to add some new "free" entries, and to anticipate the spawn date (startdate) of some of the existing ones. The whole process took a lot of time, but now we can hit multipe nation's targets, not only British ones, from the early phases of the war! I hope that this is not going to do your work with shipping traffic much longer, but yesterday I didn't get any reply by you, so I had to take some decisions. :D I think it will be easier to discuss tonece you will have the new DefSide on your HD :DL |
I had very much work and I still do, less time to chat now. Finally found a solution to split the merchants fleet, now the Z ships are a separate type of units, same for fishing and tug boat, so these ships will not be used in coastal traffic and convoys. This way the smaller ships will sail on coast solo or in very small group while the big ones in convoys.
Regarding the SWE ships, think is best to use them same way as the rest of Free ships. Then when I insert them into the convoys I will use generic FreeSWE cargo. For coast traffic they can stay neutral, its up to the player if he wanna attack a neutral ship or not. Now that we have all these nations, you will be required to check their flag first, there are not anymore only brit or american ships sailing. I need that defside soon as possible, so I know when to start/stop the traffic between the countries. I have very much work to do and now that we have 2 new campaigns.. the workload is huge. Trevally is also working this weekend, hope we can have some better progress now. Thanks. |
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@ Zedi & Co.
you've post in your box ;) |
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Thanks Gap.. what can I say.. very impressive and PRO work, a BIG thank you!
Also the notes are very impressive, this cfg is like a book. It also helps on setting up historical events in the campaign. Im really happy that you accepted to do this job, hats off :salute: |
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