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Aktungbby 08-23-21 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 2764451)
Maybe but assuming they haven't killed the pilots, the Blackhawks give the Taliban an air-mobile capability they didn't have before.

Perhaps not...and the Panshir Valley is already in arms against the Taliban https://www.wsj.com/articles/afghan-...ft-11629292300
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A large portion of the Afghan Air Force has ended up in neighboring Uzbekistan, after hundreds of Afghan service members used U.S.-supplied planes and helicopters to flee the Taliban, U.S. officials said.

At least 46 of the aircraft crossed over Afghanistan’s border into Uzbekistan since last weekend, when the Taliban seized Kabul and the government collapsed, U.S. officials said. The planes and helicopters carried a total of 585 members of Afghan forces with them, the officials said.

A handful of airplanes also ended up in Tajikistan, also on Afghanistan’s northern border....fortunately this didn't happen: The Biden administration was in the process of bulking up the Afghan air force. Ashraf Ghani, who had served as Afghanistan’s president since 2014, had asked President Biden for additional Black Hawk helicopters and other aircraft during a visit to Washington in June, and the U.S. agreed to provide 37 of the helicopters, which would have significantly boosted the country’s fleet of Black Hawks.

Jimbuna 08-23-21 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves (Post 2764291)
Ah the 16 Air Assault.
The UK's answer to our 82nd Airborne.
Any Chap that jumps out of an areoplane is a fine fellow in my book!
:salute::salute:

Rgr that :yep:

August 08-23-21 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Aktungbby (Post 2764457)
Perhaps not...and the Panshir Valley is already in arms against the Taliban https://www.wsj.com/articles/afghan-...ft-11629292300

Lets hope you're right. Either way you look at it though the Taliban just got a major weapons upgrade.

Cyborg322 08-23-21 01:36 PM

TALIBAN IN US UNIFORMS
 
Who's who ? Taliban in uniform and weapons provided by the US could this possibly get any worse ? Not to forget also the NVGs Humvees MRAPS Blackhawk helicopters, scout attack helicopters, and ScanEagle military drones, light attack aircraft, and military transport planes,

Rule 62. Improper use of the flags or military emblems, insignia or uniforms of the adversary is prohibited.

Rule 62 international law makes it a war crime if anyone is killed as a result of this

So far this just appears to be a propaganda exercise to mock the US but do the Taliban recognize international laws ? Would they push it that far? I doubt it but you never know

https://i.imgur.com/9PdtdPg.jpg

mapuc 08-23-21 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 2764469)
Lets hope you're right. Either way you look at it though the Taliban just got a major weapons upgrade.

That's is also how I see it, they got a major weapons upgrade and if they can learn how to use some of the older advance weapon or convince Afghan army to fight for the Taliban, they will be a factor which should be taken serious in the region.

Markus

Rockstar 08-23-21 02:23 PM

https://youtu.be/NWu7xHRXG0M

Skybird 08-23-21 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyborg322 (Post 2764480)
Who's who ? Taliban in uniform and weapons provided by the US could this possibly get any worse ? Not to forget also the NVGs Humvees MRAPS Blackhawk helicopters, scout attack helicopters, and ScanEagle military drones, light attack aircraft, and military transport planes,

Rule 62. Improper use of the flags or military emblems, insignia or uniforms of the adversary is prohibited.

Rule 62 international law makes it a war crime if anyone is killed as a result of this

So far this just appears to be a propaganda exercise to mock the US but do the Taliban recognize international laws ? Would they push it that far? I doubt it but you never know

AFAIK no Muslim country has ever accepted the Hague landwarfare convention. And nthe Taleban are no country anyway, but a group of terrorist religious fanatical barbars. For them the only relevant rulebooks are the Quran and Hadiths.

So why do you even ask...?

mapuc 08-23-21 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2764500)
AFAIK no Muslim country has ever accepted the Hague landwarfare convention. And nthe Taleban are no country anyway, but a group of terrorist religious fanatical barbars. For them the only relevant rulebooks are the Quran and Hadiths.

So why do you even ask...?

Really trying to remember what the Danish journalist said from Kabul some days ago.

Something with Taliban try to be recognized as a legal government by other countries.

Markus

Jeff-Groves 08-23-21 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2764503)

Something with Taliban try to be recognized as a legal government by other countries.

Probably rate right up there with the Conch Republic.
:hmmm:

August 08-23-21 03:40 PM

https://i.imgur.com/8hKs6YY.jpg

Otto Harkaman 08-23-21 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2764503)
Something with Taliban try to be recognized as a legal government by other countries.

like one gang in Brooklyn saying they speak for all of New York

mapuc 08-23-21 05:19 PM

From the news I have read around the world it looks like that potential terrorist is being transported into Europe.

There ain't any control on who enter the evacuations plane.

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Evacuee who is on UK's 'no-fly' security watchlist is airlifted from Kabul to Birmingham - then RELEASED into Britain because they're 'no longer a threat' - amid questions about screening of Afghan evacuees
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ty-breach.html

Markus

Catfish 08-24-21 03:55 AM

^ I guess this is the same as with the de-nazification, the UK has some experience in this :O:

Good analysis why the "afghan" army surrendered, fled, or joined the Taliban.
Some wisdom about out of how you conquer a whole country in a month, without much bloodshed

https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...ollapse-504977

Cyborg322 08-24-21 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2764500)
AFAIK no Muslim country has ever accepted the Hague landwarfare convention. And nthe Taleban are no country anyway, but a group of terrorist religious fanatical barbars. For them the only relevant rulebooks are the Quran and Hadiths.

So why do you even ask...?

Signing up to it is one thing going against it is another

I pose the question because this "New" generation of Taliban are far more politically adept than previous reincarnations. Their spokesman is clear and decisive he comes over as confident and assured while the rest of the world is fumbling about in the dark. Believing anything he says is another matter. They are smart and I don't think they want to push things so far that public opinion of them is swayed so far that the political leaders are ousted from office by voters,its debatable if Biden can recover from this even as things stand. Contravening the Hague agreement could lead to this even if they are not party to it their gameplay so far has been to come over as reasoned and liberators that will almost certainly change as troops pull out completely but it appear to be the plan and has been successful so far.

Simon

blackswan40 08-24-21 07:59 AM

Isis Al Hawl refugee camp isis women and children in Seria children being radicalised and the clocks ticking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW_7me1Nj7w

the deadline is August 31 is that Usa or Afganhistan Time the last two days will be for the US/Allied military to bug out

what comes after the daily executions and stonings in the town square

911 the 20th anniversary rememberance day will Isis attend in some sort of campacity it wont be the first time history has repeated its self
May 10th German Blitzkreig on the west then through the Arden and again 16th December 1944

You cant negotiate with a terorist who hates the west they are like a terminator.

Taliban dictating to America no no no no extesion to the deadline out by 31 August or there will be repercussions and no responce from America

Ex British Army Officer/MP Addresses the House


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rthKSEDw9TU&t=343s


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