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Dowly 06-03-10 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring (Post 1410318)
Nobody murdered by IDF...?

Nope, but the lives lost are now meaningless thanks to Hamas blocking the aid the "peace activists" died for. Well played, Hamas, well played. :DL

HunterICX 06-03-10 06:54 AM

The usual crap from Hamas...

HunterICX

CaptainHaplo 06-03-10 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazuaki Shimazaki II (Post 1410207)
On the morality front, it is no worse than the "evaluation" involved when deciding which German / Japanese cities to bomb in the name of helping the war effort. Hamas is not saintly, but surely this is no counterpoint...

Either your being sarcastic or your missing the intent.

The question was - where are the Israelis being murdered.... the answer to that is - every time Hamas, or other group - gets a chance. They target innocent civilians - and as your comment shows - they get a pass where the IDF gets raked over the coals after being attacked by a mob weilding lethal weapons.

How you can't see a double standard is beyond me.

OneToughHerring 06-03-10 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Dowly (Post 1410330)
Nope, but the lives lost are now meaningless thanks to Hamas blocking the aid the "peace activists" died for. Well played, Hamas, well played. :DL

That's probably why the UN is demanding Israel explain the incident and that the embargo is taken down. Also, selfdefence as shown by the aid convoy isn't a crime. Selfdefence is no offence.

Dowly 06-03-10 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring (Post 1410336)
That's probably why the UN is demanding Israel explain the incident and that the embargo is taken down. Also, selfdefence as shown by the aid convoy isn't a crime. Selfdefence is no offence.

What has Israel having to explain the incident to do with Hamas not allowing the aid to reach Gaza?

Or the so called self-defence for that matter?

Jimbuna 06-03-10 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Dowly (Post 1410330)
Nope, but the lives lost are now meaningless thanks to Hamas blocking the aid the "peace activists" died for. Well played, Hamas, well played. :DL

Exactly.....Israel pulled out of Gaza in the mid nineties and Hamaz (those brave folk that hide behind innocent civilians and are pledged to destroy Israel) seized the opportunity (of course Israel soldiers had by now left the area) and took control of said territory.

Not suprisingly dozens of indiscriminate rockets are fired from civilian areas into Israel on a daily basis and Hamas cry foul when Israel move back to protect their population and territorial integrity.

The greatest victims here are the Palestinian civilians (those that are peaceful) but sadly, they are treated as mere pawns by Hamas.

MH 06-03-10 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring (Post 1410336)
That's probably why the UN is demanding Israel explain the incident and that the embargo is taken down. Also, selfdefence as shown by the aid convoy isn't a crime. Selfdefence is no offence.

There is nothing wrong with UN asking Israel to explain the incident if its done objectively but it seems European countries are afraid of millions of Muslims leaving in them and capitulated to terrorist.
As always European politicians keep their heads in the sand.
Europe accepted that Muslim world is not to be aggravated because it can be dangerous so its not about right or wrong its about who got the power.

OneToughHerring 06-03-10 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1410350)
The greatest victims here are the Palestinian civilians (those that are peaceful) but sadly, they are treated as mere pawns by Hamas.

And how exactly would Israel want to help the Palestinian civilians? By taking their lands and locking them up in concentration camp - like conditions?

Edit. Lol, admiral.

Merchant Raider 06-03-10 07:53 AM

i think some people on this forum a missing the point, it was on the high seas and there is reports from one of the people interviewed over here that some of the murdered had shots in the forehead !!.


(The question was - where are the Israelis being murdered.... the answer to that is - every time Hamas, or other group - gets a chance. They target innocent civilians - and as your comment shows - they get a pass where the IDF gets raked over the coals after being attacked by a mob weilding lethal weapons.)

Happy Times 06-03-10 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Merchant Raider (Post 1410369)
i think some people on this forum a missing the point, it was on the high seas and there is reports from one of the people interviewed over here that some of the murdered had shots in the forehead !!.

Thats how professionals take out individuals in a crowd and its hardly murder when those individuals are attacking you.

Merchant Raider 06-03-10 08:02 AM

with sticks and kitchen knifes ??, that's the lames excuse i have heard yet!
They cannot even keep the only friends they have in the region !!, Turkey

MH 06-03-10 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Merchant Raider (Post 1410373)
i think some people on this forum a missing the point, it was on the high seas and there is reports from one of the people interviewed over here that some of the murdered had shots in the forehead !!.

They are Shayetet 13 thats what they do when dealing with terrorist.

OneToughHerring 06-03-10 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Happy Times (Post 1410376)
Thats how professionals take out individuals in a crowd and its hardly murder when those individuals are attacking you.

Also shots in the back of the head.

Merchant Raider 06-03-10 08:06 AM

OH !, Can you point out the terriost here, which side are we talking about ?

MH 06-03-10 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Merchant Raider (Post 1410379)
with sticks and kitchen knifes ??, that's the lames excuse i have heard yet!
They cannot even keep the only friends they have in the region !!, Turkey

Thats lame comment....
Wonder what would you do when facing crowd of people charging at you with iron pipes and knives and had nowhere to run?
They are highly skilled solders not super heroes.


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